Originally Posted By Moon Waffle Something I've never understood and hoping someone can shed light on: why is it with Fastpass that you don't wait inside the queue buildings anymore? I just don't get this at all. The buildings are so much fun to wait in and enjoy the theming, yet you have to wait outside before they let you in to now walk quickly past everything to get on the ride. This not only clogs up walkways but just seems very pointless to me. I don't get it! Think about Roger Rabbit, Indy, heck even Space and Splash, among others. So much time and money spent theming these queues and people can't enjoy them the way they did pre-fast pass. Can someone please explain why they make you wait outside now???
Originally Posted By FerretAfros It's less common now than it once was, but it's definately because of FP. With FP, they feel the need to let people who have them skip out on some of the line. Unfortunately, the lines weren't designed for this. So, they put the "merge point" as far along the queue as possible, but some times it's just not that far. With attractions with two sided queues (Splash Mountain and Big Thunder), they were able to close down one side and use it for FP, while the standby line use the other side. With some attractions, the queues double over themselves a bunch (Space Mountain and Roger Rabbit), so they are able to cut out portions of the queue, and then merge later on. With Roger Rabbit, the loading room was modified so the FP line went directly in to it, while the standby line goes through the originally designed queue. (For a while, they had everybody wait outside, and had the merge point at the door, then let everybody run through the queue to get to the loading area). This, in my opinion is the best solution, since it keeps the two lines seperated (out of sight, out of mind) for as long as possible, and then they have a pretty easy merge point. But then there are things like Indy, where the queue is a very long path to the showbuilding, and hardly ever doubles over itself, making it hard to cut space out of it. Since it would require a third lane running the length of the Main Street (yup, it's that far of a walk) if they added a dedicated FP lane, it's a whole lot easier (it would take major construction to do that) to just use the outdoor queue, and merge at the entrance to the temple. While this really isn't that interesting for people waiting, it's definatley the simplest solution from an operations standpoint. Unfortunately, this means on busy days that the standby line is likely to overflow the relatively small outdoor queue, spilling out toward the path, and eventually to the second floor of the Jungle Cruise boat house. Even with this set up (and to an extent, Space Mountain too), this still leaves a decent ammount of waiting with the FP, making it not all that usefull anyway. While some of these solutions may work, there are definatley others that don't. If it were up to me, I would definately eliminate it on some rides (I think Indy is the first one on that list, followed shortly by Roger Rabbit and Autopia), if not all of them. But it's not up to me, so it looks like we will just have to live with people crowding the walkways.
Originally Posted By PrincessDisneyLover I agree, the Indy Fastpass is useless. I got one when I was there in December and the CM at the door to the temple took it, then we just walked in and merged with the standby folks and had to wait just as long as them. It was annoying and left me with no desire to use Fastpass on that ride again.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains PrincessDisneyLover - unless you were there on a slow day you did not wait as long as the standby - the fastpass bypasses the line outside the temple which is on a regular day quite long. Like space mountain - you skip most of the outside part of the queue's and meet up on the inner parts - Same with Buzz and splash.
Originally Posted By bean The attractions you mentioned were not built with fastpass lines in mind. So when they were added it completely screwed up the layout. I personally think that Indy and Space should have their fastpass removed. Fastpass in Buzz should also be removed its not needed. Roger had an easy solution and i believe it was done.
Originally Posted By PrincessDisneyLover I have been on Indy on a busy day and bypassed the outside line, so I agree it was more useful then. But in December it was slow and there was no queue outside. I guess what I should say annoyed me is the fact that the CM took my Fastpass even though everyone was walking straight into the temple. On that same trip we had Autopia Fastpasses and the CM there didn't take them, and said they weren't using them because it wasn't busy enough, she said we should save them for later in case it got busier. I was thinking the Indy guy should have done the same thing, instead of giving people false hope that they're somehow avoiding the standbye time that's posted.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros That's weird. Most times I'm there with a short queue (even really late at night), they tell people to keep their FP's and use them later. I always think it's funny at 11:30 at night, the park is deserted, and they're telling people to save their FP's for later use.
Originally Posted By bobcat andy You have to use common sense with the Fastpass. I've been there on busy Summer days, and slow winter days. You know that those lines could get about two hours long. That's what I consider when using the FP. Plus, I've gone to Disneyland enough times that I just don't want to pull the "DO NOT PULL" rope in Indy, can tell you exactly when the robots will shut down on Star Tours, can recite all the speeches in the Tike Garden, and can only stand under the warm California Sun so long that I just want to take the Autopia car and drive it into the lagoon to cool off. The FP is what it is, to get on the ride as quick as possible.
