Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I was at Epcot for the evening on New Year's Eve. It was very crowded, but not jammed. Smokers were everywhere. Or at least it seemed that way. It sure doesn't take very many smokers to stink things up for everyone when things are crowded. The smoke trails behind them quite noticeably to the smell as they walk from one place to another, and you have to follow along a ways behind them as you travel the same way. Have you ever followed behind someone in a hallway who has just farted? Smoker's trail is the same. When I'm working I usually ask guests to please smoke only in the provided smoking areas. And they always do. But on a night like New Year's it's a losing battle. When guests are out to party and have a few drinks, good luck. I know poor smokers everywhere have gotten beaten up over the years for their habit. They can't smoke just anywhere they want to anymore (mostly). They have to go outside in bad weather, and can't smoke at their disgression in restaurants or business meetings anymore. But I think it's time that we help smokers out for once. Let's set aside an entire area where they can smoke ANYTIME and EVERYTIME they want to -- like say -- Nevada.
Originally Posted By Mr X Or, even better, let's send all the bitching, complaining, whining non-smokers to Utah. Then all the rest of us can smoke in peace.
Originally Posted By Labuda Well, I'm a smoker, but I'm with ssWED on this - if you're in a place where it's "smoking in designated areas only" then DON'T FRICKIN' SMOKE ANYWHERE YOU WANT!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Sorry I missed seeing you ssWEDguy since we were at EPCOT for the evening as well. I did complained about this smoking problem in my quick report from WDW yesterday. I kept telling G-Fan it was almost as bad as going to DLP on a slow day. But honestly....the CMs (and especially the batallion of managers who were working on stage yesterday) have to share in the blame for NOT enforcing the policies anywhere. Not once did I see a CM telling these offenders to go smoke in the designated areas.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN One more thing.. after seeing various members of my family die of lung cancer due to their smoking, I am affraid there is nothing I could do to help them out as you requested. Sorry, but they are a health hazzard and should be given an ever harder time for disregarding the warnigs imposed upon them for their filthy habit. One more thing... shame on Disney for pushing Beer and alcohol so much for these types of evens. We don't need to see guests getting drunk inside WDW. Seeing two such people last night was enough for me.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn I never did understand lighting things on fire and inhaling the smoldering fumes. The same goes for marijuanna. I love to hear proponents say "Isn't is OK to take something that's natural?". I always respond "Molten lava is natural too. Take a slug of that".
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> smoking problem ... it was almost as bad as going to DLP on a slow day. << Too funny.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> let's send all the bitching, complaining, whining non-smokers to Utah << You can probably tell that I don't smoke, but I do drink a lot of coffee. Coffee is every bit as addictive as smoking. And possibly not even good for my health long term. (jury still out on that one) I admit that the smell of coffee alone could possibly offend someone. So if anyone said so, I probably would not drink coffee as often or as publicly as I do now. The big difference is that while my coffee might offend someone else's nostrils, the smell alone does not hurt them. Second hand smoke DOES hurt more than just the smoker. People who smoke wherever they feel like it when they darned well know they're not supposed to are taking advantage of the goodwill of others, who are polite enough to (sometimes) just let well enough alone, and just move themselves away from the smoker.
Originally Posted By stitchcrazy I smoked for almost 10 years from being a sneaky naughty pre-teen through my mid-20s when I found out I have asthma. Since I quit because of the asthma in some ways I don't mind being around the occasional cigarette - its like getting a sniff of an old friend. (Which is a bit twisted I know) With that said - I'm not a fan anymore of super smokey places. 3 weeks ago at Epcot on a Sunday night I noticed the same thing, lots of smokers all over. And that was on a random Sunday night. I was very surprised to see no one saying anything to anyone about it.
Originally Posted By nats30 Do you complain to the semi truck drivers who pollute a whole city with exhaust from their huge diesel rigs? They do more damage than a whole room full of smokers. In most cities factories that blow smoke and garbage out of their smokestacks do not only pollute the atmosphere but contaminate the ground and drinking water. Get a life and learn to get along with the human race.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Do you complain to the semi truck drivers who pollute a whole city with exhaust from their huge diesel rigs?<< Gimme a phone # to their complaints dept. and I am so there. BTW... this is the very same reason why I am so anti-busses at WDW.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Get a life and learn to get along with the human race << Ah, another smoker heard from.... >> Do you complain to the semi truck drivers who pollute a whole city with exhaust from their huge diesel rigs? << Actually, I do. But the big difference is that those rigs don't drive down the street where I live everyday. Or sit at the end of my driveway with their engines idling. (Hey! It's a public street!) Are you saying that because trucks already pollute, that smokers should not have to worry about adding their contribution? Are you saying that because some people will choose to use swear words in public that we should all have to put up with it? Get a life and try to help improve the human race. We don't have to all live to a lowest common denominator.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <>> Get a life and learn to get along with the human race << Ah, another smoker heard from.... Yep, another unbiased view of the second hand smoke issue--geez.... and yes, I know what it's like to be a smoker -- I was 2 packs a day for 10 years - but I quit 25 years ago -- cold turkey, by myself no freakin' patch or gum etc..... I decided I wanted to live long enough to enjoy grand kids -- so as an ex-smoker I get along fine with the human race- as long as they're not tryin' to kill me -- then the South Side Chicago in me comes alive .....and I have no problem letting any smoker smoking in an area where they are not supposed to and I am in, know it .............
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn I do think smokers who throw their cigarette butts on the ground or out their car windows should be slapped (literally) with a minimum $1000 fine, and be immediately stripped of their tickets and/or annual passes.
Originally Posted By Kylesmom I support a smokers right to do what they like with their bodies. But your rights end with my face. Until they invent a cigie that keeps smoke out of my face, stick to the smoking areas. BTW, non-smoker complaining may be annoying, but it won't damage your health. Can you smokers who don't like hearing our complaints say the same about your fumes?
Originally Posted By Otimon Had you come across myself at Epcot this past weekend, or any weekend for that matter, you would have been asked to finish your smoke in the nearest smoking area or kindly put the cigarette out.
Originally Posted By kingsdaughter4 I am a smoker & believe if there are designated smoking areas smoke there only!! Ignoring those designated area is just as irritating as a non smoker walking by a designated area giving me a dirty look & coughing.Being a smoker I would never smoke in my house & can't stand being in a closed area filled with smoke or walking behind someone who is blowing smoke in my face.If myself or my husband just have to have a smoke & we are in public & are allowed to smoke we will stop were we are & smoke & I feel if a nonsmoker doesn't like that they have the choice to cross the street or hold there breate as they pass by me.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Easier said than done... your stink lingers behind you... How long do you expect nonsmokers to hold their breath? Now for the record...my best friends on LP (who knew I had some?) are somkers who respect the fact that I am not and are conciderate. Just like I would be if I smoked but I don't.
