Originally Posted By LogDog <a href="http://www.local6.com/news/9774630/detail.html" target="_blank">http://www.local6.com/news/977 4630/detail.html</a> Apparently, the new thing at WDW is to scan your fingerprint to match you with your AP. My question is, is DLR doing this? Do I have to give them my fingerprint to enter the park? There's no way in hell that's happening.
Originally Posted By seanyoda Disneyland doesn't have the same scanners as WDW, so, no... not yet. And even at WDW, you can enter with your admission media (not just APs, but also all multi-day passports use the scanners) and a valid photo ID instead of using the scanners.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I don't think DLR will go that route, they already have the monitors that bring up the pictures of APs.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros WDW has had boimetric scanners (that scan your bones in your fingers or something like that) for a couple years, and we have gotten nothing at DL. I'm sure something will eventually come along, but I doubt it will be until they can get a reliable system working without backing up the lines at WDW.
Originally Posted By Roger55 DLR has for the past 10+ years used photo identification, and the new system being tested is also photo based. I don't think any other kind of technology system is being considered for the forseeable future.
Originally Posted By CMM1 It sure sounds like Disney is much more concerned about the ticket "grey market" at WDW than they are about such activity at DLR. Perhaps since the stakes are higher with the number of multi-day tickets at WDW compared to a higher porportion of single-day tickets at DLR?
Originally Posted By -em Also DL tickets expire 14 days after the initial use and have for years vs WDW where tickets had no expire date up until very recently. So while its possible to resell DL tickets if you play within the 2 week rule- its going to be a lot harder than WDW's forever rule... -em
Originally Posted By Darkbeer I do see the fingerprint scanners coming to the DLR as soon as they are proven at the WDW. They are currently upgrading the DLR Turnstiles to a more CM friendly system, a large Touch Screen that is easier to see and use than the old "panel", and also can show photos of AP holders, and be able to process "Print at Home" tickets with the addition of a printer. But I do see Disney adding special "AP" turnstiles using the scanning system in the future, heck it is a labor saving measure, similar to the self-service registers now being offered in many stores. One CM can watch over about 4 turnstiles, and send folks over to the "regular" turnstiles if they have any problems or the wrong ticket....
Originally Posted By Mr B plus, Disneyland doesn't have 10 day park hopper tickets like WDW...what is the most for Disneyland...5 days?
Originally Posted By imadisneygal The only problem I see with the special AP self-service turnstiles is that Disneyland has a considerable problem with AP transfers where AP's give their pass to someone else to use. That could happen with even more frequency if there was only one CM overseeing 4 turnstiles for AP's. I realize it's not that many passports being used fraudulently, but Disneyland confiscates one to several AP's a day due to fraudulent use. Maybe the labor savings would be deemed worth the increase in fraud?
Originally Posted By seanyoda imadisneygal wrote << The only problem I see with the special AP self-service turnstiles is that Disneyland has a considerable problem with AP transfers where AP's give their pass to someone else to use. That could happen with even more frequency if there was only one CM overseeing 4 turnstiles for AP's >> Consider what Darkbeer said << I do see Disney adding special "AP" turnstiles using the [finger] scanning system in the future ... One CM can watch over about 4 turnstiles, and send folks over to the "regular" turnstiles if they have any problems or the wrong ticket >> Suppose an AP holder gave his or her AP to someone else who looked similar. The cheater would then scan the AP and have his or her finger scanned. The turnstile scanner would detect a mismatch between the scanned finger image code and the stored finger image code and not allow the cheater to pass. At the same time, it would alert the CM that there is a problem. At this point the CM would approach the turnstile and the cheater would have two choices: 1. Leave and don't get caught. 2. Try to pass but be denied when asked for identification (unless the cheater has the same name as the AP holder) I'd see this as a strong deterrent to cheating.
Originally Posted By Nobody ^^But how would a person get through if their biometric identifier didn't match up with the AP? It would seem to be labor savings and increased fraud prevention, or am I missing your point?
Originally Posted By Nobody Sorry, my short, and slow reaponse was to post #10 also. (Note to self: refresh the screen before posting...)
Originally Posted By imagineer1985 Disney Is completely reinvesting in internet tickets and touch screen systems which we all know about any sort of WDW Scanning is not in the plan and will probably not come any time soon
Originally Posted By TP2000 Why would anyone care if Disneyland had a scan of your fingerprint or the bones in your finger? If it prevents fraud, then Disneyland should go for it. Who cares of Disneyland knows what the bones in my finger look like? I'm amazed that someone would object to such a thing. The checker at Vons knows what my phone number is every time I use my Vons Club card to save 30 cents on toothpaste, so why should we care that Disneyland knows what my finger looks like?
Originally Posted By imadisneygal I didn't notice that Darkbeer was saying that there would be the bioscanners. I thought he was posting about the large picture. Oops!! Yes, definitely MUCH easier for one CM to oversee 4 turnstiles. I know that when I worked there the idea of more than one turnstile per CM was vetoed every time it was mentioned because the powers that were didn't like the idea of every Guest not being greeted. I tend to agree but I also realize the need to cut labor costs and this is an easy way to do it.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal And you'd think that being caught would be a strong deterrent to cheating, but you'd be surprised how many people are willing to go to the mat over using someone else's passport. I've offered the "You can leave now and I keep the passport, or you can come with me to the security office where you'll be arrested for attempted petty theft" line many times myself, and many times I've been told, "It's really my pass, I lost major weight (changed my hair, used to be more tan, etc.)!!!" I say, if you're going to try it at least give up once you're caught. Crazy people!
