Originally Posted By SuperDry I visited DL a few weeks ago. I really liked some of their new T-shirt designs (no, not the Disney Parks ones ) and bought a few. Some of the ones I got during the 50th are my favorites. They not only have good design, but are of high quality. Of the four shirts I bought, 3 are undersized such that I can't wear them. I was a bit surprised, since the ones I bought 2 years ago were perfect. I understand that there is some variance in sizes between manufacturers, but I would expect there to be a particular DL size, such that once I figured out what size of DL T-Shirt fits me, that I could shop on that basis without trying each shirt on every time. This bugged me enough that I started measuring, and two of them are actually a full size smaller than they are labelled. That is, the XXL's I bought that are too small for me are exactly the same size of some old XL shirts I have. Measured at shoulder width, the new XXL shirts are 2.25 inches narrower than the same size DL shirt from 2 years ago. I guess 2.25 inches is the difference between XL an XXL In any event, that's far too wide to be just from minor variances between lots. A third shirt is about half way between XL and XXL. So, I think there's a problem here. Either quality control is so lax that shirts could be mislabeled as to size and not be noticed, or someone is playing around with the sizes on purpose.
Originally Posted By kari12177 my DH would agree with you and me. He's tall and a 2xl did not fit him, it was like a large instead. When I bought a med t'shirt, it was like a small. And barely fits. I have to agree with you, someone needs to change things when it comes to clothing!
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains We have noticed the same thing not only with the DL shirts but also with the Disneyshopping.com shirts. I have tons of xl and xxl shirts - I recently ordered some of the newer shirts (pirates and vintage tees) they are alot smaller than what I bought last year!!
Originally Posted By BlueHarvest1138 I had my sister get me a Star Tours Yoda shirt on her trip about 2 months ago. She gave it to me and told me it was a Large. I swore she lied. Sure enough I looked at the tag and it said large. It was a medium maybe a small. I brought the shirt with me last week to exchange it but they only had XXL and M & S. So with the receipt I asked if I could return it explaining the problem. After 20 minutes and two phone calls. I finally got a refund. I was planning on wearing that shirt to Star Wars Celebration!
Originally Posted By junglejoy I've had the same problem. My Mediums for my 50th shirts all now belong to my 10 yr old...
Originally Posted By MomofPrincess I have noticed that, too. I always have to buy an XXL there, whereas in "normal" clothing, I can wear a L or XL at best. OTOH, I bought a crewneck Tinkerbell sweatshirt at a Disney outlet that is a LARGE, and I swear it fits like an 3XL. It's enormous!
Originally Posted By jdub This is a definite issue if you are ordering online, or through a catalog or whatever, but fortunately if you shopping on-site and are purchasing for yourself or someone close you can eyeball the garment, adjust for shrinkage, & you are good to go. I did notice on my most recent visit (as I do at most every other clothing stores as well) that just because one shirt marked in your alleged size fits--doesn't mean the one next to it will!
Originally Posted By bobiascastle Take them to the Disney Store. They will take them back. Or you could always eBay them. But you probably wont get as much as if you returned them.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains THe thing that is very frustrating with all this is that I have a closet full of 2X shirts - I have lost some weight and can wear XL in the older tops (tees and the embroidered henleys) and they are even a little big. So I go to DL and buy a nice looking shirt in xl and it is way to tight, take it back and even the XXL is too small - The little girl behind the counter explains the sizing is now based on vintage sizing and it's more like the Couture sizes...huh??? SO all this work and I am now going up sizes at DL
Originally Posted By Kira <<<Take them to the Disney Store. They will take them back. Or you could always eBay them. But you probably wont get as much as if you returned them.>>> you can return disneyland returns to your local disney store and get a full refund but you MUST have the receipt. no receipt no retun.
Originally Posted By junglejoy Some of us live no where near a Disney store. The nearest one to me is a six hour drive away.
Originally Posted By sweetpea70 Seems like everytime I go to World of Disney and find a shirt I like I'm disappointed to notice its that shrink wrap style. I've been eyeing a pink pirates one for the last several trips, but even the XL looks like it would only fit a chestless little boy!
Originally Posted By sugarplum So glad someone brought up this topic... its been a peeve of mine for a while now. What I've done at the parks in the past is.... if there is no dressing room to try it on, I'll purchase what I believe is my size then go try it on in the restrooms later that day. If it doesn't fit, I can promptly exchange or return it at any of the retail stores at the park. Just keep your receipt and tags on.
Originally Posted By solodumborider1 Well here's another one. I bought a really pretty black ladies t-shirt from the GCH gift shop that has a nice design of leaves and stuff in metallic with GCH written in the design. I wear a size 14-16 and guess what size I had to buy??????? 3X !!!!! My mother does wear a 3X but she also weighs 298 pounds there is no way; this thing would even fit on her forearm!
Originally Posted By kari12177 There is one dress room in Frontierland shop across from the shoot out place. I know, I used it. I got soaked in winter on Splash and I bought a dry sweatshirt-that was too small. And they let me change out of my wet clothes.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< So glad someone brought up this topic... its been a peeve of mine for a while now. >>> I'm glad to be of service. <<< What I've done at the parks in the past is.... if there is no dressing room to try it on, I'll purchase what I believe is my size then go try it on in the restrooms later that day. If it doesn't fit, I can promptly exchange or return it at any of the retail stores at the park. Just keep your receipt and tags on. >>> You, me, nor anyone else should have to do this nonsense. After all, we're trying to give Disney money to buy what is likely to be one of the most popular and profitable souvenirs in the park, and one that uniquely turns us into unpaid walking billboards for Disney when we wear them outside the parks. And we love it! Is it too much to ask that we not suffer at what apparently is a coordinated deception? From the looks of this thread, what I described is a common problem. Keep in mind that I'm not talking about variances between lots or manufacturers, nor a situation where one brand's sizes tend to be just a bit on the small side. What has apparently happened is that the T-Shirts being sold are indeed industry standard sizes - it's just that they are being mislabeled as being one size larger than they actually are. Two of my XXL shirts are exactly the same size as what as far as I can tell is a "standard" XL. And from other comments, all of the sizes are this way. <<< The little girl behind the counter explains the sizing is now based on vintage sizing and it's more like the Couture sizes. >>> Assuming that this is not just a lone CM making it up, this only confirms that it's being done deliberately. And what would the motivation be for going back to the "vintage" sizing? Disney has done many things recently to cut costs, and they tend to disappoint me (but not at DL for the most part). But this one actually makes me angry. This is very different than having one less unit in the parade, or shrinking the size of a meal portion by 10%. With those sorts of cuts, you can still enjoy what remains for what it is. More importantly, there's no established standard as to how long a parade should be or how many ounces of food a meal should consist of. But clothing items such as T-Shirts come in standard sizes. Also, with an article of clothing, if it's too small, you can't wear it at all. And most guests will not notice this until they get home and it's too late. Most guests will not keep the receipt, and will probably wash the items before wearing them, and as a result, will have completely wasted their money. Perhaps equally important, they are deprived of wearing their keepsake with fond memories of their visit. But this isn't what really makes me angry about this. Can anyone figure out what it is?
Originally Posted By GhostHost2 "Also, with an article of clothing, if it's too small, you can't wear it at all." This is something Disney needs to consider, I am not fat by any means, but I am quite tall. That makes me wear at least a 2X, and perfearbly a 2XLT or 3X. Disney needs to look around and try to please all the guests they see, instead of saving 5 cents for every shirt sold.
Originally Posted By hopemax > What has apparently happened is that the T-Shirts being sold are indeed industry standard sizes - it's just that they are being mislabeled as being one size larger than they actually are. Two of my XXL shirts are exactly the same size as what as far as I can tell is a "standard" XL. And from other comments, all of the sizes are this way. When we were on the Trans-Atlantic cruise, on the first day, DH wanted to buy a shirt. Normally, he wears an XL, but when I picked it up it looked very small, but the XXL was HUGE. We bought both, and the XL on him was skin tight, and the XXL was too big in the sleeves, but he really wanted a shirt so he decided to tough it out. Later, in the cruise, I looked at the shirts again and the XLs I saw were what I would expect an XL to look like. I chalked it up to a bad batch, but maybe there is something going on somewhere and a complete lack of quality control.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Have you seen the sizes in the Disney Vault Store? They are even smaller and slimmer. I usually wear a size L in shirts with a 44 inch chest and I just got back to a 33 inch waist after a winter of heavy cardio; but at Disney Vault of the mens shirts I've seen an XL is snug on me through the shoulders, lats and abs. That said, the "couture" sizing for Disney clothing now that the CM mentioned makes sense. They are selling more of the trendy, couture stuff inside the Parks; particularly at the Disney Clothiers store on Main Street. And what makes you the angriest SuperDry? Do you think we might be getting stuff from Hong Kong Disneyland, or Disney Parks are trying to standardize stuff to line up with Hong Kong Disneyland requirements?
Originally Posted By SuperDry I measured it, and the difference between a standard XXL and XL is about 5% less material in the XL. So, assuming that the difference is the same between all adjacent sizes, Disney stands to save 5% on the total cost of materials for these T-Shirts, not to mention shipping costs, handling costs, storage costs, etc. I can see how someone who had their back pushed against the wall to deliver a particular earnings growth target might make such a decision. But nobody has come up with what I think is particularly insidious about this whole thing. And I do think that insidious is an appropriate word for it. Anyone? I'll post the answer tonight if nobody gets it by then.
