Originally Posted By dagobert According to Variety, Disney and Jerry Bruckheimer will not renew their contract when it expires in 2014. However they will still work together on POTC 5 and National Treasures 3. I guess that makes sense, since Disney is just focusing on their franchises from Marvel and Lucasfilm. There seems to be no space for more mature movies, but I still think they could have used the Touchstone Pictures banner for Bruckheimer, like they did in the 90s. I always enjoyed the JB action movies and it's getting boring to see one superhero movie after another from Disney. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://variety.com/2013/biz/news/end-of-an-era-disney-and-jerry-bruckheimer-part-ways-1200652789/">http://variety.com/2013/biz/ne...0652789/</a>
Originally Posted By ecdc Jerry Bruckheimer: Too risky and sophisticated for Disney. Wow. I mean...wow. I just...there's no... <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1609179/speechless.gif">http://cdn0.sbnation.com/impor...less.gif</a>
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 The bottom line is you have to make money and Pirates 4 aside, Bruckheimer hasn't produced many hits
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>The bottom line is you have to make money and Pirates 4 aside, Bruckheimer hasn't produced many hits<<< In recent years, but his action movies in the 90s made some money. All in all he made 10 billions, including POTC, for Disney. However Disney changed a lot since Iger took over. They abandonned Touchstone and that banner worked fine for the more mature movies JB produced. But now he can only make movies for the Disney banner thanks to Iger's franchise craziness. So in my opinion the failures of the recent movies aren't only his fault.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Interesting move to announce it so shortly after the Lone Ranger, but not entirely surprising I agree that Disney should revive some of its auxillary lables like Touchstone (and/or Miramax and/or Hollywood Pictures) since it allowed Disney to create a different kind of film. Especially now that Iger has mandated the tentpole rule, it seems that Disney-branded films are becoming especially similar and predictable (have I mentioned recently how much I dislike Iger?) I'm also excited to see National Treasure 3. While the first two were hardly 'great' works of cinema, they were incredibly fun and just plausible enough to be really interesting and exciting. It's been a long time since I heard anything about possibly having a third one, so I'm glad that it's still in the works
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>I'm also excited to see National Treasure 3. While the first two were hardly 'great' works of cinema, they were incredibly fun and just plausible enough to be really interesting and exciting. It's been a long time since I heard anything about possibly having a third one, so I'm glad that it's still in the works<<< Finally another one who likes the National Treasure movies. I'm also excited to see a third one.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I agree that Disney should revive some of its auxillary lables like Touchstone>> I liked Jerry's snide comment about offering to revive Touchstone in his press release. The writing has been on the wall for a long time. The "family" active adventure model is very difficult to pull off and Jerry just couldn't do it besides NT and POTC. Sorcerer's Apprentice, Price of Persia and G-Force were attempts to shoehorn his formula into the Disney brand. JBP will end up with another studio deal - I bet he ends up back at Paramount. It is Disney's loss by not letting Jerry be Jerry.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Finally another one who likes the National Treasure movies. I'm also excited to see a third one.>> Count me in - both are just great entertaining movies. Guilty pleasures. I miss the likes of The Rock, Con Air, Enemy of the State - even Armageddon. Just very competent popcorn flicks. Too much of the modern day equivalent is over-worked CGI nonsense (see: Pacific Rim). Simple works well for that genre.
Originally Posted By ImTempest Me, three. I'm also a National Treasure fan. Really looking forward to the third installment.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Guilty pleasures.<< This. Definitely the right way to describe them! I kind of feel bad about enjoying them (mostly because Nicholas Cage is terrible at acting), but they're just so fun
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf I really like the National Treasure movies - like a Reese's Big Cup, not nutritional, but satisfying. I look forward to the third.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>like a Reese's Big Cup<< I LOVE those things. I only indulge occasionally, but dang they are tasty.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I agree that Disney should revive some of its auxillary lables like Touchstone (and/or Miramax and/or Hollywood Pictures) << Not that I disagree, but Disney doesn't own Miramax anymore.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros ^^I remember that they sold Miramax off a few years back (thanks Iger!), but I don't remember who has them now. It doesn't seem like they're doing much with the brand (either new or existing films) so it seems like an odd investment. Still, Disney could easily revive something like that to broaden their market
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ It is owned by a bunch of private equity guys including Colony and the Qatar Investment Authority. They also own the back catalog.
Originally Posted By leemac And they aren't particularly interested in making films any more. It is just about exploitation of the library.
Originally Posted By dagobert So Jerry Bruckheimer moves back to Paramount. I know he is still involved in POTC 5, but what about National Treasure 3? Is that movie still considered by Disney?
Originally Posted By JeffG Basically, Bruckheimer moved his "first look" deal (and presumably, his offices) from Disney to Paramount. He can still produce movies for Disney, or any other studio, if it is something that the other studio already owns the rights to (such as a sequel) or if Paramount passes on the project. While he was at Disney, he produced the "Bad Boys" sequel at Columbia and he already had sequels to "Top Gun" and "Beverly Hills Cop" in development at Paramount before he ever left Disney. If all the parties involved with the "National Treasures" series decide they want to make another one, Bruckheimer changing studios shouldn't affect that. -Jeff
Originally Posted By leemac <<I know he is still involved in POTC 5, but what about National Treasure 3? Is that movie still considered by Disney?>> It is still in development. The plan is to get it out in 2015 - probably Christmas.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Basically, Bruckheimer moved his "first look" deal (and presumably, his offices) from Disney to Paramount.>> First look deals usually mean that the production company pays for its own overhead - so if he does physically move to the Paramount lot then they will charge him rent and overhead. He could keep his space on the Disney lot as there isn't any other producers that are being kept off the lot because of his space. His Disney deal meant that all of his overhead was covered (I've heard he used to spend $30m or so a year).
