Originally Posted By trekkeruss I haven't seen this discussed anywhere, but I have heard a lot of talk about how limited the viewing area is for WoC. With that in mind, any ideas on what the show is going to look like from Paradise Pier looking towards the main viewing area? I assume you'd see the projections, but in reverse, or no?
Originally Posted By ni_teach At the moment it looks like they will close down Paradise Pier and not allow anyone back there. However, if they did you are correct that you would just see the projections on the mist screen when they were up and the regular show when they are down.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<At the moment it looks like they will close down Paradise Pier and not allow anyone back there.>> I was wondering about that, but wasn't sure if they were closing just the rides or the entire area. But why would they need to cordon off the pier for WoC?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I would assume you will see the projections in reverse, but since the projectors themselves are aimed away from the Pier, they would be a lot dimmer. You would also have a much more difficult time seeing the fountains themselves, since they are designed to be seen from the other side. That means that the shorter ones will be further away, with the tall ones blocking most of your vision. If there are any parts of the show where there are projections and fountains at the same time, you will really only be able to see the projections, since they will be blocking the view. Part of the TSMM construction was the hot dog stand, Don Tomas, and the shade structures, which were partly designed to make it difficult for people to want to camp out for WOC from back there. I'm sure you will still be able to get somewhat of a view of the show, but it would be like watching Fantasmic! from Fowler's Harbor.
Originally Posted By tashajilek If they closed down all of PP for WOC that would just be stupid! I would rather walk by and see the backside of water then having all the attractions closed.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Seems like it would have been better to put the mist screen in the middle, with fountains on either side so there would be two viewing areas (and perhaps have two sets of projectors running in sync but with one in mirror-image so the projections would be bright on both sides.) But I guess the show would be half as grand since there would be half as many fountains in view.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Let's fess up shall we? 6000 is roughly 1/3 of DCA's attendance on a really really good day for the park. 9000 would be 1/3 of DCA's attendance on a slower day if it were doing as well as Epcot. Which do you think people planning World of Color really thought was more plausible...?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss But people will migrate from DL park just to see the show. So DCA's daily attendance is not the only measure here.
Originally Posted By mousermerf So they add more shows, hence the 1/3. Parks don't just fill up and then release at closing time. People enter/exit with the morning "crew" leaving around 1pm and then about double that entering between 11am and 2pm, 1pm being peak entrance time - at least that's how WDW parks work. I'm sure DLR skews later in the evening for APs. I don't think when they planned this show they were expecting it to boost DCA's attendance dramatically aside from excitement around the grand opening. Hence Mermaid, land rethemes, and Cars.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <But people will migrate from DL park just to see the show. So DCA's daily attendance is not the only measure here.> Good (and, one would have thought, obvious) point, Russ. DLR has many more AP's than WDW, and park-hopping is of course a lot quicker and easier.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "I don't think when they planned this show they were expecting it to boost DCA's attendance dramatically aside from excitement " I think people are under estimating the popularity DCA will have when WOC starts. IMHO i think its going to be a zoo and not only for a few months. From when WOC opens to mermaid to carsland there's going to be a huge attenance hike.
Originally Posted By mousermerf But that's also a trend that's been grown with the hype over re-doing DCA. It's the park to goto to see the exciting and new changes - it's been marketed that way. When they first planned World of Color (year or more before construction began) the rest of the pieces were not in place yet.
Originally Posted By socalkdg People migrate to DL as well, thus balancing the people migrating to DCA. Plus I'd imagine half of the 20,000 that hit DCA are usually gone by 8 at night. Imagine if they are worried about crowds and then find out that they never fill the park with viewers. That never happens with DCA, does it.....
Originally Posted By Ohana of course it is too late now, but it seems so shortsighted to have the show facing only a limited area, when there was so much potential
Originally Posted By ksargen Ohana - doesn't Fantasmic have the same problem? While they don't close all the attractions at that end of the park, in some ways, they may as well have. There have been times we couldn't get through the traffic lanes to get to that end of the park. Most people I know avoid the whole area until Fantasmic is done for the day, the crowds are so bad...
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< But people will migrate from DL park just to see the show. So DCA's daily attendance is not the only measure here. >>> For now. I highly suspect that WoC is part of an overall plan to bring pricing power to DCA. Right now, almost nobody pays extra to get into DCA: the only AP available is the two-park hopping kind. Multi-day tickets all include park hopping. DCA attendance is often driven by the "Buy DL, get DCA for free on a different day" promos. About the only people that actually pay incrementally for DCA are the people that buy the single-day hoppers, and those folks effectively pay $25 to add DCA onto a DL ticket. I think that eventually, all of this will change, and that DLR pricing will be closer to TDR's than it is to WDW - that is, in format, not necessarily the price points themselves. I suspect that at some point, there will be single-park and two-park APs, and that multi-day tickets will not automatically come with hopping unless you pay more. This actually is closer to what the original ticketing was for DCA when it opened, before it had to be dramatically retooled when nobody showed up. So, if this happens, say, in conjunction with CarsLand opening, a lot of the crowd control problems will be different. No longer would you have almost everyone in DL that day eligible to just pop over for WoC then head back to DL.
