Originally Posted By gaston lives Who would win? It'd be tight, cause they're both huge, but I think I'd give Gaston the edge in overtime if Clayton didn't have his gun. And why can't you find any merchandise with these two on it? That sucks.
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean I don't know, Gaston is more attractive in appearance, but Clayton is more attractive in personality. They both have guns, but Clayton is older than Gaston, and even similar to aspects to his colleagues, Percival C. McLeach and Bill Sykes, so he would probably win. The same thing could kind of apply to Cruella De Vil and Yzma (or for that matter: Queen Grimhilde and Yzma), but I am also really amazed about why no one can find any merchandise with both Clayton and Gaston. Clayton and Gaston look a lot alike, in fact, "Tarzan" could be the "Beauty and the Beast" of the jungle, but maybe someday. We will find merchandise with the both of them - maybe just maybe, someday. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Where do you keep getting the name "Queen Grimhilde"? Is that actually documented in Disney records, or is just a name from a variation of the Snow White fairy tale?
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Go here: <a href="http://disney.go.com/vault/archives/villains/queen/queen.html" target="_blank">http://disney.go.com/vault/arc hives/villains/queen/queen.html</a> Or, just it look up on other sites, like say on Google. I am sure you will find something. It is a name from the Disney comics, not a name from a variation of the fairy tale. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy I saw your explanation in the other thread. ;-) I just don't like to take the comics as "canon", personally.
Originally Posted By basil fan I would say that the film continuity overrides anything in the comics. But since the film gives her no name, I always think of her as Grimhilda. Re: Gaston vs Clayton they seem pretty evenly matched in brawn. I think Clayton would win because he's smarter. Henchmen, Minions & Thugs: Disney's Second-Class Villains <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/disney/henchmen.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ disney/henchmen.html</a>
Originally Posted By DVC_dad I too agree that Gaston would clean Clayton's clock. I think a better question is, Clayton vs. Tarzan.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy <I would say that the film continuity overrides anything in the comics. But since the film gives her no name, I always think of her as Grimhilda.> That's what's so interesting though, the fact that she technically does not have a name---or that we the audience are never told it. She is simply "The Queen/Witch". It's a unique little element. Like in Sleeping Beauty, the queen has no name, despite a certain book adaptation. In film canon she is still "the Queen". Then there is a different level of this when you have a character with a generalized name---"the Huntsman"---but who has a name if you look into Disney history enough---Humbert. Another fun fact-type of thing.
Originally Posted By basil fan Kronk vs. Gaston? In what, a spitting contest? The Tarzan Equation <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/disney/tarzan.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ disney/tarzan.html</a>
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Kronk strikes me as the kind of guy...you know...well it would take A LOT to get him mad, but once he began to lay blows, they would pack mighty power! I would still have to take Tarzan on technique alone. I'd say the final pecking order would be: Taran Gaston Kronk Clayton
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Now let ME add someone. Please forgive me but...I need to step outside of Disney for a second... Let us as CORTEZ from the movie, Road to El Dorado! What say ye about him?
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs This reminds me of a Villain tournament I did years ago on a now-defunct Disney Villains website. It was done in the style of WWF/E wrestling and MTV's Celebrity Deathmatch, and was divided into four categories: Villains, Villainesses, Henchmen and Animals. I also had a Disney Afternoon Villain Battle Royal as a filler match. Btw, a battle royal is a wrestling match involving oh, anywhere between 5-20 guys in a ring at the same time. The object is to be the last man standing in the ring by eliminating your opponents. An opponent must be thrown over the top rope and have both feet touch the floor in ordered to be eliminated. What's really bizarre is that I had the Cheshire Cat in the Animal tournament. Let's see... I think the winners were Jafar, Maleficent, Shere Khan, and I can't remember who I had to win the Henchmen tournament. Anyone pick up the Disney Dossiers book? Has a nice section on Villains, and refers to Clayton as "Cecil Clayton"... although it doesn't mention Frollo's first name. The three Brers are are featured in their own section, as is The Reluctant Dragon.
Originally Posted By basil fan >I'd say the final pecking order would be: Taran Gaston Kronk Clayton I like Taran, but he's too puny to beat up these he-men, unless he gets to use his magic sword. Maybe when he grows up. Rourke should get in on this fight. That guy's tough as nails. House of Mouse <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/disney/house.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ disney/house.html</a>
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs Disney Iron-Man Tournament (Brackets to come later) THE PARTICIPANTS: HEAVYWEIGHTS Humbert Prince Phillip Sykes Prince Eric Percival C. McLeach Gaston Aladdin John Smith Quasimodo Phoebus Tarzan Clayton Shan Yu Dr. Joshua Sweet Commander Lyle T. Rourke Kronk On Deck: Pacha LIGHTWEIGHTS Peter Pan (has agreed not to fly) Arthur Mowgli Taran
