Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest.asp?I1=ID&I2=73531" target="_blank"><b>Latest: AP: Disney cleared of safety violations in death</b></a> <p>Walt Disney World has been cleared of workplace violations in the death of a cast member during Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular rehearsals.</p>
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: For a second, there, I thought this would be a topic about the monorail driver who was killed and Disney would NOT deserve to be cleared of THAT one. But for this other incident, my sisters and I would have to say it's much less clear who was at fault.
Originally Posted By Mr X Agreed. A stunt show is, by nature, hazardous. Thus the need for safety protocols and highly trained professionals...but even so, accidents are an unfortunate "part of the game" in such a line of work. The monorail thing was completely different and, in MY opinion, entirely preventable. Seriously. If they REALLY care about "safety first", there is no way in hell they would allow a driver to sit in the front of the train and proceed backwards completely blind. It's outrageous.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: So true, MR. X, dear. But they'll surely pay for that one--maybe not nearly enough--but at least they won't get by totally for the death of that poor young man.
Originally Posted By WDW1982 I have love and admired the Disney company for many years. Spent many vacation in WDW most at least a week long at a time . Walt died on my 5 birthday and his nephew died one day after. But after living in Florida for 5 yrs now. I hate to say I have lost the Disney Magic. I will never ever step foot in a Disney park again! Disney has so become a BiIG CORPORATION but you must treat and care for your "CASTMEMBERS" But it's the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR that speaks for Disney now. Been goiing to WDW since 1982 and have seen the changes that have been for the worse! You know what I will spend my $'s at Seaworld and Universal and Kennedy Space Center and Ceder Point! Before I ever go back there! Heres the thing is I went to Animal Kingdom and basically had a heart attack for the heat and Disney not ahving the correct measures being there! Was taken to Celebration Hopsital. Best care I have ever had! But Disney didnt even help to get me a room after so i could rest a few days before i had to drive baack to DC and did'nt even offer! But when i asked about the hospital bill with my employer. Thay said don't ask..Gee I wonder if Disney was worried about being sued for poor designs in their park ?
Originally Posted By WDW1982 Oh and BTW My employeer was a multi billion dollar company. Never even got to see a bill. Don't know if Disney had anything to do with . But do suspect they had a hand in taking care of it.
Originally Posted By Socrates Am I following this correctly? Disney paid your hospital bill, and you're upset? Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I went to Animal Kingdom and basically had a heart attack for the heat and Disney not ahving the correct measures being there!>> You blame Disney for the weather?
Originally Posted By WDW1982 No. I blame Disney for designing a poor park. And not providing me with a room to rest after I was released from their hospital. I'm happy if they paid the hospital bill. But upset that know one care to see how I was doing after the event. I figured they would at least se how i was doing after the fact.And ask What can we do for you In getting better.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I blame Disney for designing a poor park.>> Can you be more specific?
Originally Posted By WDW1982 I'm just saying if Disney had not made it so crowded and had more open slace. And had more of a breeze way for the air flow, I would not had the attack. The main complain I have is Disney didn't offer a place to stay so I ould rest up after leavin the hospital. For a few days so I could travel safely back home that would have been better than just saying " HAVE A MAGICAL DAY" As I said I just need a few days of rest after the hospital even if was staying at a low cost resort. I'M so sorry guys I'M probaly ranting and just being a nut. I have live here for 5 yrs and every year bad things have happened maybe I just need to calm down and quit blaming everyoen. But heres what has happened since I have lived in Florida. In the last 3 yrs I have been molested my male boss had 3 heart surgeries, been robbed and beaten left for dead. Lost my job, Broke my right foot ankle and leg. and have been told I can't basically walk again as far as work. I'm Just stressed out. I have been here for 5 yrs and outside of my better half friends I have no friends. I'm not a bad person just very lonley and sad. I just have lost hope in mankind I guess>
Originally Posted By Manfried WDW1982 your post is very unclear. How about stepping back a moment and try to write it in such a way that those of use unfamiliar with what happened could understand it better. Don't assume we know what the heck it is you are writing about.
Originally Posted By WDW1982 Im sorry . I just wished I haven't fell for the fairy tale of Disney and Florida. I'm just wished I was back home in Texas and had the love for Disney when I came to Florida for the fun. Mabye I'm Just getting old and tired . And have forgotten hope. Didn't mean to bring anybody down. Just wished i still had a dream of when I was young and the world had lots of hope and dreams to live for. Sorry guys I guess I just wanted someone to listen even if it wasn't the right place. My motto has always been Never fail to dream.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***And not providing me with a room to rest after I was released from their hospital.*** If you were released from the hospital, I would say you should complain to the doctors if you feel they released you too soon, not Disney for not giving you a free hotel room! If they actually paid for it (you keep saying "if"), that means they took care of you above and beyond what they needed to do since, let's face it, YOUR heart attack is not THEIR fault whatsoever. If they dropped you off at the hospital door by ambulance and then sent you the ambulance bill, that would have been enough. ***I'm happy if they paid the hospital bill. IF they paid? Did they? Or not? You should be damned happy that they paid your bill, I'm surprised and wondering if there isn't more to this story. I can read nothing into what you wrote that would indicate to me that they were obligated to do so (did you threaten to sue, or something?). ***But upset that know one care to see how I was doing after the event*** They sent you to a hospital and PAID for it. What do you want, a cookie? A concerned phone call once a week asking if you're okay now? Geez... ***And ask What can we do for you In getting better.*** Good Lord, you can NOT be serious.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I'm just saying if Disney had not made it so crowded and had more open slace. And had more of a breeze way for the air flow, I would not had the attack.*** Interesting. I can only assume that this very specious argument is the very reason you GOT a free stay at the hospital out of Disney. I will certainly try and remember that excuse for my eventual (probably inevitable) heart attack. In fact, if I feel a twinge, I'll try and drag my butt into a Disney Park in order to cash in! j/k You think Animal Kingdom is "poorly designed" in terms of crowds and heat? Try Tokyo Disneyland sometime. I assure you, they will take good care of you if you drop from a heart attack but they won't pay you a single thin dime (or even a single thin yen). So, you were very lucky that Disney bought your "too crowded and hot" argument and paid for your expensive hospitalization! ***The main complain I have is Disney didn't offer a place to stay so I ould rest up after leavin the hospital.*** How could you possibly expect something like that!? ***For a few days so I could travel safely back home that would have been better than just saying " HAVE A MAGICAL DAY" As I said I just need a few days of rest after the hospital even if was staying at a low cost resort.*** So you're pissed that you didn't get a few days at a low cost resort for free? After having all your medical taken care of? Dude. *** I have live here for 5 yrs and every year bad things have happened maybe I just need to calm down and quit blaming everyoen. But heres what has happened since I have lived in Florida. In the last 3 yrs I have been molested my male boss had 3 heart surgeries, been robbed and beaten left for dead. Lost my job, Broke my right foot ankle and leg. and have been told I can't basically walk again as far as work.*** That TOTALLY sucks, and I'm sorry to hear it! On the bright side though, you got completely free care and treatment at a great hospital after your unfortunate heart attack. Considering the state of health care in America, you got very very lucky! ***I'm Just stressed out. I have been here for 5 yrs and outside of my better half friends I have no friends. I'm not a bad person just very lonley and sad. I just have lost hope in mankind I guess*** Laughingplace is a very friendly place, you can make friends here I'm sure.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***For a few days so I could travel safely back home that would have been better than just saying " HAVE A MAGICAL DAY" As I said I just need a few days of rest after the hospital even if was staying at a low cost resort.*** Also, are you claiming that you were SO broke (even after all your bills were paid by Disney) that you travelled in an unsafe condition rather than pay for a hotel yourself to rest up in? Forget a "low cost resort" (you destroy your argument here completely by even using the word "resort"), if you needed a place to stay and rest up, you certainly could've chosen any number of cheap motels located literally steps away from your hospital...a 2-3 day stay would've cost you less than $100. Just sayin.....
Originally Posted By jkayjs OK if this is for real & not a trolling mission lets start here. You appear to be in need of emotional support so I suggest you promptly contact your local mental health department they have a list of support groups to help you sort things out. Let's clear up the thought that AK's design somehow caused a heart attack. It is a huge park so cramped size is plainly not the issue. Unfortunately you clearly do not have a healthy heart by your own words & it is incumbent of you to know your limitations & behave accordingly to take care of yourself. It is not costumary for any buisness/individual to be expected to take finacial responsibility for an illnes just because it occurs on their property. As I said if this is for real I'm truely sorry you are in so much pain both physically/emotionally & hope you seek support/help(but as you mentioned this is not the best place for that). If however you are pulling our legs what can I say I am pretty short & can use a few inches.
