Originally Posted By Cord Stevens First off, take it or leave it to the things I will post when I have time. I can only post when away from California. I will not debate anything. Take it or leave it. That being said. There are no plans for a Disney World version of Carsland. That is just fanboi fluff. There are no plans for anything at the Studios right now. Universal hates Marvel. If Universal could dump the Marvel license to Disney and get rid of the rides in Orlando, they would. Disney sends people to IOA almost everyday to make sure the attractions are running in like new condition. Not to mention Disney is in Universals books. Avatar will make California's Carsland look bad. Avatar will be what all future themed areas will be judged by. Everything from a design standpoint is complete. Everything is ahead of schedule. Silly as it sounds, been hearing the Epcot Food and Wine festival might just turn into a year round thing instead of a couple months. No Star Wars other than what is already built. Sorry fanbois. Avatar is not the end of building at Animal Kingdom. I would guess you will see more tacked on there before you see demo at the Studios. There is design work done. Downtown Disney has been declared unfixable. It will be nothing more than a outdoor mall, and never anything more than that. It did not start that way. Star Wars weekends? What about Imagination Movers weekends? Hint Hint.
Originally Posted By SuperDry << First off, take it or leave it to the things I will post when I have time. I can only post when away from California. >> Okay, but who are you? Why can you post only when away from California? << Disney sends people to IOA almost everyday to make sure the attractions are running in like new condition. >> It sounds like a great idea. I wish they would start doing that at WDW!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Hey guys... be happy that LP has finally attracted a higher class of troll. He won't say who he is, why he knows anything more about WDW than Donny does, and he refuses to take questions. But hey... he speaks in complete sentences. We should all be grateful. ;-) Personally, I wouldn't bet a dime on anything he said.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Still it makes for an interesting read and the test of time will prove whether or not this poster is a troll or not. In the meantime, some of what was said sounds good--other parts of it not so much--particularly the part about Down Town Disney being unfixable in Disney's eyes. If true it's only because they don't want to spend the correct amoung of money to fix it.
Originally Posted By Cord Stevens I'll be back next week for more, let me leave you with this which I will say is 60% confirmed. Imagine a simulator that once you enter, sit and buckle, you just might be placed into a whole 360 degree vision ride in 3d. What if this simulator was based on the Avengers, and featured the actors from the films. Something like that could redefine the whole industry. See you all next week, stay safe.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The idea of an eternal Food and Wine Festival is interesting, but I just don't think that they'd really go for it. The Festival requires a ton of extra staffing for all of the booths (and backstage kitchens), which I can't see Disney supporting long-term. It also causes traffic flow problems during a relatively quiet time of year; I can't imagine what it would be like during a season that's already busy. It would also be tough to market it to the general public. Part of the draw of F&W is that it temporary (get it before it's gone!), and that it is a little different each year. If they keep it running, I doubt there would be as many updates. From a logistical standpoint, I think it would make a lot more sense to just make a new pavilion. And I still don't have a lot of faith that the Avatar stuff will happen. I've heard nothing but perplexed responses from park-goers who've heard of the project, and Disney sure hasn't put a lot of effort into getting people excited for it. The simulator sounds okay, but it's still just a simulator; why does everything these days need to be projections? And 3D? I can watch TV just fine at home; I want to see something 'real' when I'm at Disney. The 360 aspect sounds like StormRider at TDS, which is neat, but still not nearly as convincing as physical sets would be. Overall, the concept just doesn't excite me.
Originally Posted By TP2000 I can only post when I'm away from the liquor cabinet. But I still don't think Avatarland sounds interesting enough to warrant an entire mega-land. Downtown Disney is unfixable? It's a cheesy outdoor tourist mall with carbo-loaded chain restaurants, predictable chain stores, and a string of Disney owned shops selling piles of plastic junk all made in China by loving hands. What is to fix? WDW is sending CM's to IOA to make sure the Marvel rides are in good cosmetic condition?!? That's hilariously funny, seeing as how so many WDW rides are in bad cosmetic condition. If I were in charge of Universal, I would send a team of my own folks to ride Maelstrom and Dinosaur and Jungle Cruise each week and send a recap of all the things that are broken. And I'd send the broken down report to WDW each week on Marvel stationary.
Originally Posted By disney pete Im guessing the op can only post when he's not letting people over his bridge.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Interesting. New poster appears on LP shortly before a nasty troll gets banned from the WDWmagic boards for 10 pages of very ugly language and nonsensical rants. Coincidence? I don't think so. <<I can only post when I'm away from the liquor cabinet.>> LOL!!
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "If I were in charge of Universal, I would send a team of my own folks to ride Maelstrom and Dinosaur and Jungle Cruise each week and send a recap of all the things that are broken. And I'd send the broken down report to WDW each week on Marvel stationary. " LOL
Originally Posted By Mr X ***<< Disney sends people to IOA almost everyday to make sure the attractions are running in like new condition. >> It sounds like a great idea. I wish they would start doing that at WDW!*** Bazinga!
Originally Posted By LadyandtheTramp "WDW is sending CM's to IOA to make sure the Marvel rides are in good cosmetic condition?!? That's hilariously funny, seeing as how so many WDW rides are in bad cosmetic condition. " I believe you are missing the real reason, if this is true. Uni has the Marvel rides as a result of a license from Marvel giving Uni the right to use the Marvel trademarks in conjunction with the rides. Standard requirements in trademark licenses mandates that the licensee maintain prescribed levels of quality, etc., or the licensor can pull the right to use the trademarks. Disney probably has figured out that this might be a way of pulling the license from Uni, by detailing how Uni is harming the trademark by not maintaining the rides. So sending people over daily can make sense. And of course, since Disney owns the trademarks on its own rides, it doesn't have to meet any level of quality, and can let the rides go south.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>Disney probably has figured out that this might be a way of pulling the license from Uni, by detailing how Uni is harming the trademark by not maintaining the rides.<<< I wish them luck with that. From what I've seen they will have that franchise for as long as they want it. Quality is not an issue for Uni!
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Universal hates Marvel. If Universal could dump the Marvel license to Disney and get rid of the rides in Orlando, they would. Disney sends people to IOA almost everyday to make sure the attractions are running in like new condition. Not to mention Disney is in Universals books.>> So much wrong here. So...so much. Nice try though.
Originally Posted By SuperDry << I believe you are missing the real reason, if this is true. ... Standard requirements in trademark licenses mandates that the licensee maintain prescribed levels of quality, etc. ... And of course, since Disney owns the trademarks on its own rides, it doesn't have to meet any level of quality, and can let the rides go south. >> I don't think any of us are missing any of this (other than I doubt it's a conspiracy to revoke the license agreement). The irony of the second part is why we're laughing so hard.
Originally Posted By Cord Stevens Next-Gen is the topic at the moment. Don't be shocked to see something attraction related come out of it. Something possibly jaw dropping. Iger is the right guy at the right time. Compare him to Lincoln. Avengers, Avengers, Avengers. Big BIG push to finish what's on the table. I can't say DL or WDW at the moment. No concrete answer. Would you miss Swiss Family going on permanent hiatus? Do kids even know who they are? Expand Pirates at WDW? Add a Kraken? Believe what you will, more truth than you know, but some will never make it off a drafting table.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper << but some will never make it off a drafting table.>> AKA, "I know I'm wrong, but I'll say this to make it seem like I'm right no matter what"
