Originally Posted By Expo_Seeker40 Whatever happened to Hatty? First he gets featured in all sorts of promotions for DL's HM a couple years ago, then some merch, and now....nothing. Is he ever coming back to the HM (in updated/working form) or is he on the backburner because those interactive book shelves out front were too expensive.
Originally Posted By Expo_Seeker40 BTW theres a hole cut into the wall between the ballroom on our right (just passing the pipe organ) but before entering the attic. A black tarp is there too...no word yet if the blue triangles are going to show up.
Originally Posted By DlandDug How odd! Just nine before this was posted I posted this link over in DL General: <a href="http://www.disneyhistoryinstitute.com/2011/07/actual-home-movies-of-hatbox-ghost-1969.html#comments" target="_blank">http://www.disneyhistoryinstit...comments</a> It's all about the original Hatbox Ghost. Someone found home movie footage from August, 1969!
Originally Posted By Expo_Seeker40 Incredible find! Probably some photos or film in someones attic waiting to show more "Hatty". If I understand this...the HM for most of 1969 through a few years ago (same for WDW) had the bride on the RIGHT. But when they did Constance they out the bride on the left...originally where she used to be when the DL HM first opened in 1969, thus giving hatbox a possible spot on the right hand side again. Also, his head was to move back and forth between his body and the box in sync to the bride's heartbeat.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer The video is awesome, yes. But the effect isn't.. it never worked correctly. Obviously, today, it easily could work, but I still hesitate in wanting him for the HM. Adding him makes him more than "just another ghost" for the HM, and takes away as scenery... he's now THE GHOST that's been missing polarizing the scene he'd be in, and adding a character. Something, that I think is wrong for the Mansion, especially at this stage when WDI wants to pile on unneeded characters and gags and other clutter. Would I complain if he was just added in the background, as he should be? No, probably not. But as of now, I am very very very anxious to see how this is handled.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<But the effect isn't.. it never worked correctly.>> You literally can't tell that from the video.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Adding him makes him more than "just another ghost" for the HM, and takes away as scenery... he's now THE GHOST that's been missing polarizing the scene he'd be in, and adding a character. Something, that I think is wrong for the Mansion, especially at this stage when WDI wants to pile on unneeded characters and gags and other clutter. >> EE...this would only apply to the crazy hardcore mansion folk. Not 99.99% of the people that will ride the ride every day. Add him, and people will just think it's a cool addition.
Originally Posted By ChiMike That's a good point Hokie. I was thinking the same thing EE was; you're right. Most folks will think it is a nice plus, not knowing the back story to the figure. At this point, having not seen the new HHG's, I just welcome the idea of an addition of a Figure rather than what appears to be projections of Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd. I would figure DL would have priority to receive this, it makes sense to include it at WDW, but this is a piece of DL history not WDW.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>You literally can't tell that from the video.<<< I see both heads. (Oh, goodness.)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>EE...this would only apply to the crazy hardcore mansion folk. Not 99.99% of the people that will ride the ride every day. Add him, and people will just think it's a cool addition.<<<< >>>>That's a good point Hokie. I was thinking the same thing EE was; you're right. Most folks will think it is a nice plus, not knowing the back story to the figure.<<<< If he's treated like just another figure, I'm fine with him. I alluded to that in my post. What I am not fine with is if WDI goes all effect and dialog happy on him, like they did with the new bride and even the HHGs. He can't stand out and be a character that people look for. He has to blend in. That's about it.
Originally Posted By ReelJustice Well, I think he is part of the bride's story, so prepare yourself EE. I personally have no problem with that scene. It's cool. Better than what was there before.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I think the bride is done a little too heavy handed, and could be much more subtle and creepy, but I don't have a issue with it. If he fits into that, I'm fine. He just can't be a detractor.
Originally Posted By Daannzzz The bride is very disappointing to me. He body is fine though lit to brightly but the face looks terrible. It looks like a projection on a balloon and a partially flattened balloon at that. I would prefer her to be be much more sublet. I actually liked the attic better when the pop up ghosts were there and the whole evil bride story was missing.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself Love the bride and new story in the attic. Love it. Just sayin'. As for the Hatbox Ghost, the molds are in Florida at WDI. No reason for that if they aren't gonna use him.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ It's not a bad story by any means, I just feel that the bride is way too loud. It's heavy handed. The old one just leered at you- much more effective. And yeah, Hatty will get there eventually. Just WHEN is the bug question. This has been planned for ages, them having models and molds are nothing too new.
Originally Posted By ChiMike See, I hated the last bride. The new one is neat, but I hate the way it shifted the emphasis of the entire attraction on her. I really dug the bride that was there in the 80s. While some say it was cheap looking, the mellow nature fit the attic aesthetic more, imo.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ EXACTLY. The new one is too chatty, too loud, too attention on me! Story! I glow! I look cool! She's supposed to be ethereal... haunting... not a glow stick.
Originally Posted By leobloom The new bride looks good, but I could do without the dialogue which most of the time I can't understand. The mansion is primarily a visual experience -- and excels in those visuals. I don't really like the new hitchhiking ghosts because I think the gags are a little convoluted and are a little hard to "read." I assume Hatbox would be a figure with no dialogue? If that's the case, I'd suspect he'll be a nice addition.
