Originally Posted By doombuggy <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=9233817">http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/st...=9233817</a>
Originally Posted By tashajilek I forgot about that story. Knotts has had a few problems over the past few years and I'm not that quick to return.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I can see Spock's face - Where's the logic in leaving more people stranded the next time this ride decides to break down? See, in Missouri, rides that break down in other states come in contact with Missouri's magic "Pixie Dust" where it will never break down ever again!
Originally Posted By oc_dean I have a bad feeling who approved this: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://69.195.124.67/~inparkma/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/ouimet-photo-1024x682.jpg">http://69.195.124.67/~inparkma...x682.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By oc_dean In this vein ...... replace "Wall" with "Windseaker" ... and "Window" with "Yesterland" <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYcxXsFQscA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...xXsFQscA</a>
Originally Posted By doombuggy oooorrrrrrrr <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpY0tmpLZBs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...0tmpLZBs</a>
Originally Posted By doombuggy all I could do was laugh when I read this story. The meeting they must have had, Well maybe it will work in the other park or Who cares if people in Missouri get stuck...what else is there to do there?
Originally Posted By oc_dean doombuggy ... ORRRR............ <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRAQivSrtm0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...QivSrtm0</a> In the same breath - When you have stranded people, you need to PERMANENTLY remove Windseeker! If they can't get it right at Knott's, don't do it at all !! ;p
Originally Posted By oc_dean But anyway Doombuggy ... Yeah! It needs THE AX! Permanently! NO re-transplanting! It needs to be killed at the roots, so it can't "grow back" anywhere else!
Originally Posted By oc_dean -Why can't you give me the respect I'm entitled toooooo!! -Because I am not one of your faaaaaaans! ;-)
Originally Posted By oc_dean Changing the subject EVER SO SLIGHTLY ... It's interesting to see the varying opinions of people (since the Mommie Dearest book and movie) who think Joan Crawford was not the b*itch she was portrayed to be - and the ones who think she actually was. I say - people who've been lucky to have good parents - would take the Pollyanna approach, and think she was peachy-keen ... to those who have actually dealt with abusive parents in their life - and wouldn't put it past a major Hollywood star, (and lets face it - Most major Hollywood stars have big egos) .. and I wouldn't put it past Miss Crawford that she very well, indeed, mistreated her children. Back on track with the Windseeker.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I have family in MO and I've been to WOF. Storms come up quickly - and obviously far more frequently - in KC than they do in SoCal. They don't have to spawn tornadoes (though sometimes they do!), but just a garden variety summer storm can create winds and cats-and-dogs rain that you REALLY don't want to be caught in... let alone 300 feet in the air. I imagine they'd close the ride if a storm was approaching, but they DO pop up sometimes with little warning... I'm just thinking this might not be the best "fit" for this particular ride.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Isn't it relatively standard practice for parks to ship ill-fated rides between each other? I believe that sevral Six Flags coasters have made the rounds this way, and Cedar Fair (and the former Paramount parks) has done it in the past. Perhaps a total disassembly and reassembly in a new location will work out better, but I doubt it As for the storms, the average ride time is maybe 3 minutes? That's about the same as the average roller coaster, and WOF has several of those that manage just fine during storms. However, if a pop-up storm and ride malfunction were to occur at the exact same moment, then that could be pretty terrible I visited WOF as a child, and have positive (though vague) memories of the day. An incident in line for the rapids ride has become a bit of a running joke in my family! : )
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <As for the storms, the average ride time is maybe 3 minutes? That's about the same as the average roller coaster, and WOF has several of those that manage just fine during storms. However, if a pop-up storm and ride malfunction were to occur at the exact same moment, then that could be pretty terrible> The problem I was thinking of is that those malfunctions stranded people at KBF for two hours or more, IIRC. I was thinking of a situation where the weather was fine when the ride starts... then it malfunctions... two hours later there's a storm during which they would never operate a ride of that type (quite different from a coaster) and the people are still stranded up there in those heavy winds 300 feet up. Not some place I'd like to be.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Yea, but in Missouri they could have the Baldknobbers entertain you while you're waiting to get down!!
Originally Posted By CDF2 1. Einstein said that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result was insanity - does that have any relevance here? Putting the same ride that was breaking down on a regular basis and now expecting something different qualify? 2. If there were safety or rescue concerns (BPFD doesn't have a tall enough ladder or doesn't have a mountaineering rescue team capable of getting guests safely down from a 300-ft tall tower within a couple of hours), then what does that say for the Sky Tower or the Supreme Scream or even Xcelerator attractions? For that matter, what kinds of safety conditions have to be met in terms of onsite and/or local resources to support these attractions? Does Magic Mountain in Santa Clarita have a different set of standards for the 400-ft open air tower of their Superman ride verses DCA's Tower of Terror where they can probably take a set of stairs down if an elevator breaks down?
