Originally Posted By HokieSkipper So, there are rumblings around the interwebs that TDO may finally be admitting they made a mistake with the handeling of Leasure Island. Rumors have it that an out door bar/lounge will be making its way to the island since Disney has basically pulled an uber-fail with attempting to get third party vendors to take up the space. Thoughts?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Honestly...while that's a nice thing to put there... ...putting it on the spot where they probably had the greatest bar/club/EXPERIENCE is really, really terrible. Save money, TDO. Just reopen the AC. You have no idea how many people you will win back with that. And funnily enough, I thought the thread title had something to do with me going to Universal within the month...(hopefully) ;-)
Originally Posted By -em >>Save money, TDO. Just reopen the AC. You have no idea how many people you will win back with that.<< Agreed- then convert BET into the general club and you've got it made -em
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Honestly...while that's a nice thing to put there... ...putting it on the spot where they probably had the greatest bar/club/EXPERIENCE is really, really terrible.>> To me, it's not horrible. If it is true, it seems like it could be a "first step". If they're willing to admit they're wrong, the other dominoes would most likely fall into place. <<And funnily enough, I thought the thread title had something to do with me going to Universal within the month...(hopefully) ;-)>> While that is amazing, the fact that TDO may be admitting they're wrong is even more amazing.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Whatever they do to PI, I would hope they require either a current Disney Hotel card or Theme Park admission to gain access. In it's later years PI seemed to be primarily a place for WDW CM to get obnoxiously drunk. I originally really enjoyed PI. In the later years I was almost scared to be there after 11 PM.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<In it's later years PI seemed to be primarily a place for WDW CM to get obnoxiously drunk.>> Sorry, but that's bull. When I was down on my College Program, I never saw any CM getting obnoxiously drunk at PI, and I was there a lot. The real culprit here would most likely be House of Blues. that's where people would get hammered. And anyway, even with your rules, the CMs would still get in. They get access to everything a regular guest does, save for EMH.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Agreed- then convert BET into the general club and you've got it made <<< See how easy this is?! We should run Disney...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>To me, it's not horrible. If it is true, it seems like it could be a "first step". If they're willing to admit they're wrong, the other dominoes would most likely fall into place.<<< Sure, but to put a new club on the spot of the older, better one, one that actually had a story, a following, and a bit of History to it, is an insult, IMHO. Sure, they'd be admitting they were wrong, but instead of fixing the problem, they only give you a half assed version of the club back. Kind of like what they did with JII versions 2 and 3....
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Sorry, but that's bull.>> My sister-in-law is a former WDW CM, and she thought that was pretty true on certain nights (if I recall correctly, they were offered reduced admission on some nights). But I can't say that I KNOW from personal experience. I will change "WDW CM" to "young adults". Fair enough?
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Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Wait...what? I think you're misunderstanding the situation.<<< I understand it perfectly. They want to bring back the club scene to PI but with a new club. It would be infinitely better just to bring back the OLD clubs that everyone is pining for, and kill two birds with one stone. 1) Bring back a "adult" atmosphere to DTD 2) Bring back a beloved venue that all this angst as about anyway.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<They want to bring back the club scene to PI but with a new club.>> Right. but it's an out door club. You were talking as if it was going to replace the AC, which it most likely wouldn't be doing. You bring this thing in, which in turn spurrs interest in the Island, leading to the possibility of opening back up the old clubs.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Hopefully. But, honestly, do you see them doing that if a new club does well? They'll just open newer clubs.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<But, honestly, do you see them doing that if a new club does well? They'll just open newer clubs.>> There's a better chance of it happening the way I mentioned than them just reopening it out of the blue, IMO.
Originally Posted By MousDad Well, if EO didn't make jt jump off a bridge, this sure will. lol. Someone better get Lee on the phone.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The Adventurer's Club had a group of hard-core fans, but was it that popular overall? Most people (including me) just don't "get it" the first visit. Even after figuring it out, I had to be in a certain mood to go there. You have to devote a fair amount of time there to really appreciate the experience. I also can't imagine it was very profitable for Disney. It was more a "sit and watch" place than a "sit and drink" place. Combine that with the relatively large cast required, and it had to be a money-loser for Disney.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I also can't imagine it was very profitable for Disney. It was more a "sit and watch" place than a "sit and drink" place. Combine that with the relatively large cast required, and it had to be a money-loser for Disney.>> Every reliable source I've ever seen has said AC was indeed in the black. How profitable it actually was is up for debate, but it did not lose money.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> That should say Pleasure Island... I cannot type. << I just can't tolerate sloppy typing.
Originally Posted By GMouse Take this for what it's worth... I heard a rumor from a cab driver in Orlando that PI was closed down because DEA was getting ready to do a drug raid and they didn't want the negative publicity. Evidently there was a big problem with drugs at PI for a long time.
