Originally Posted By YourPalEd Every day California Screamin' is down, the economy suffers. Where is our friend Arnold, who was kind enough to show up on Disneyland's birthday? Where is he now? Remember how Governor Schwarzenegger on that day said, disney was good for the economy? Well, we need that coaster up and running NOW. We need to get all those people in the park and standing in 3 hour long lines running continuously from opening to closing to keep the strong California economy going. Where is our friend now? He should be on the front lines demanding scrutiny. Arnold could be putting pressure on california technicians to work on fixing those brakes from possible malfunction in the future, and open up the coaster again, already. I mean remember how Riordin got our freeways working after the quake in 2 months or so while san francisco had some of their highways down for over 2 years? Arnold you could do the same for DCA! I was just getting used to going back to DCA and using the wonderful single rider line they set up on CA Screamin, and buy my corndog and coffee and coke, and bag of seedless grapes, and trail mix, and... Where is Arnold. Yoo Hoo! Arnold we need you! Please, help me get the roller coaster in my life back up and working again, and safe from any problems whatso ever. Heck get it running when its still unsafe. I'll sign a waver. Let all those pansies just stand at the edge of the pier and take pictures of me in row 1 as i zip on by. SCHWOOSSH! Thank you in advance, Mr. Governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger for all your help. You've been very kind. Bye bye, for now. Your Pal, Ed
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Hmmm, this is a strange post . Well, I don't think the media will take to kind of the GOVENOR trying to get a theme park ride running earlier BEFORE the investigation (and hence, future safety of other theme park sucke-uh, riders) is over just so Disney can make more money . Also, I think between the tabloid issues, teacher union issues and all the infighting going on in Sacramento right now he has to deal with.......this would be FAAAAR down on his plate, assuming he had any influence or power to do anything about it, which, well, he doesn't. Hope that helps .
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 Single Rider line? Maybe I would have cared for this ride if I didn't have to stand in the ugliest queue Disney ever created (and still managed to not keep clean or pristine).
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Maybe I would have cared for this ride if I didn't have to stand in the ugliest queue Disney ever created (and still managed to not keep clean or pristine).>> Another example of how DCA gets judged more harshly than the other Disney parks. Virtually every ride in Fantasyland has a back and forth chain maze, most of which are no better looking than the queue used by Screamin'. While Toad has some nice themeing right before you load, must of the others are a big nothing. Many of the queues at Epcot are no better. Spaceship Earth - back and forth chain maze. Living with the Land - back and forth chain maze. Universe of Energy - big empty room. But all those lousy queues get a free pass because they are not at DCA.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 "Virtually every ride in Fantasyland has a back and forth chain maze, most of which are no better looking than the queue used by Screamin'. While Toad has some nice themeing right before you load, must of the others are a big nothing." I dont even think I should warrant that with a response, but you are completely wrong. Snow White, Mr. Toad, and Pinnochio are much better queue areas. The smell of puke, canvas roofs, and the rusted metal rails are gone. In their place is beautiful carved wood, painted scenery that bleeds into the load area like the pages of a pop up book, and the general happy atmosphere of Fantasyland. The watchful eye of an evil queen peers over us all as we wait in the Shadow of sleeping beauty castle. In DCA you are down in a put that destorys your view of the bay, and the only shadow you are in is a tilt up parade warehouse. I have to agree with you about the chains at EPCOT comment, but at least the land is indoors and air conditioned. I never even knew there was a queue area for SSE on my two trips. So I cant comment. Your comment was based on little evidence, and you seem to be reaching.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^What about Small World, Matterhorn, Casey JR, Dumbo, and Storybook Land? Should I continue?
Originally Posted By jmuboy ^^^^ Hmmmmm, only difference I can think of is 40 years of design experience thrown out the door.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^I knew somebody was going to say that. Sorry, but design is design. And the basic point is that switchbacks exist at DL and some people here don't seem to mind them there (because DL is pure perfection, right?), yet they have a strange distate for them at DCA.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 Matterhorn is hardly just switchbacks. It has been a while since I have been on small world, but I think I remember walking through topiaries, and once again, it is not a switchback, it is a pathway that never doubles over onto itself, like Big Thunder, Splash, or Space Mountain. As for the other attractions you mentioned, they are hardly headliners. Their lines rarely exceed 20 minutes. Screamin is given a B-ticket queue, yet we are supposed to think of it as a DCA E-ticket? It's completely different. And the queues that both Road Trip and Hans listed are not rusting away, and I have never notived the essence of puke in the air. Of course, it is probably just my rose colored nose plugs keeping me from smelling it. The views from every single one of those attractions gives an interesting perspective of something like Monstro, or Storybookland, or the Lagoon, or waterfalls, or topiary. At Screamin you dont get any of that. It is a completely different situation, and yes, a step back to the pre-Disneyland days of amusement park design.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I have never noticed the essence of puke in the air.>> I've never noticed that at Screamin'. You must have hit it on a bad day. I can't really imagine that Screamin' is a major puke coaster. Besides… What makes you think they aren’t using scent balls like they do in Soarin’ to provide a realistic setting? ;-) Paradise Pier is supposed to represent a mid-20th Century seaside amusement park. Just how are they SUPPOSED to make the queue look? Your description makes it sound darned accurate to me!
Originally Posted By DisneyFreak96 I must have bought the same rose-colored noseplugs, since I have never smelled the "Screamin'" style puke at Storybook or Matterhorn either.
Originally Posted By DisneyFreak96 <<Paradise Pier is supposed to represent a mid-20th Century seaside amusement park. Just how are they SUPPOSED to make the queue look? Your description makes it sound darned accurate to me!>> And that is the problem with the theme! Disney rides should not be described as metal switchbacks and the smell of puke.
Originally Posted By Mandelbrot The only thing wrong with the Screamin' queue is that it doesn't provide a clear enough view into the scenic wonder that is Paradise Pier. The scent of vomit? Are you kidding? When they have four or five trains running it hardly feels like a queue at all.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <---Thinks its so funny that the entire set of posts and subject matter is nothing CLOSE to what the thread is suppose to be about . It's one thing to hijack topics in discussions, but this one was basically ignored altogether from the get-go.
Originally Posted By AladdinAZ The Schwartz said Disneyland is good for California's economy. He didn't say anything about California Adventure. hee hee hee
Originally Posted By Blacksheep Uncle maybe because he's smart enough to understand that "Disneyland" now means the whole resort not just one park...
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 "What makes you think they aren’t using scent balls like they do in Soarin’ to provide a realistic setting?" I guess it could be possible. It would be along the same "reality theming" lines as that temporary looking power pole in HPB that comes off of Rizzo's. This puke thing isn't just a one time occurance. I have really weak stomach (for smelling the stuff) and I pick up on the scent just about every other trip to the pier. Combined with the loud noises, the lack of shade, and a heck of a lot of ugly, this part of the park just gives me a headache. The rest of the place would benefit if the pier disappeared tonight. It would be a much more enjoyable experience. "Paradise Pier is supposed to represent a mid-20th Century seaside amusement park. Just how are they SUPPOSED to make the queue look? Your description makes it sound darned accurate to me!" The 1950's were the beginning of the end for seaside parks that once thrived after WWI and during the great depression. Luckily for us Disneyland came along and started forcing those parks to clean up their acts. Those that couldn't afford it fell to pieces against the new competition. Why they would put one of these in a Disney park is beyond me (like I needed to tell any of you that), and how a Power Tower, A Launched Steel Looping coaster, and an orange shaped swinger fit in is beyond me. And yes, I do feel kind of bad about messing with this topic on the third post. But I'm not exactly sure what kind of response we were supposed post.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd I really do not care about the queue, anymore. I already know there is no queue. I knew it when i went on the coaster opening day and sat in the seat on California Screamin' Roy Disney had just sat in. It was the exact seat, in row one, on the left. Roy Disney had just sat in it, and he gave me the thumbs up, before he left the station, and when he came back. By the way the seat was dry. Anyway, i know there is no queue. DCA was a partial attempt by the disney company to woo customers, who also occasionally like to experience roller coasters, away from the knott's and 6 flags coaster parks, and to find one-stop, walmart, amusement park shopping at the disneyland resort. Well, their theory worked for me, except that i won't wait in lines over 10 minutes anymore. So, after i had no reason to go to DCA at all, except for an occasional ice cream, the single rider pass for California Screamin' brought me back in. It was wonderful being able to experience the brilliant, complex robots and scenery of Pirates of the Carribean, and a few foot steps away, i could walk over and hop on a coaster, shoot off at 55 miles an hour, be turned upside down and shaken around like a police pursuit, and end up safely back at the loading dock, placed smoothly, serenely, safely, back where i got on. But, now some sort of sabotage has taken place, and the coaster is down commpletely. I think this accident was instigated by a left over disgruntled Paul Pressler employee, or another of the Cynthia girls, who snuck under the radar, and still work at the resort. We need our Governor to help us now to root out the problem, and make sure no braking accident will happen again. We need him to do it now! Today! I was planning on visiting the park tomorrow and it would be annoying not to have the coaster running still at this late date of the summer. I mean Disneyland is so packed it's just no fun to even try to go there when it's just swirling heads and bodies, and where hundreds of people are in front of you in line wherever you go including the rides, restaurants, and bathrooms. Please, Governor Schwarzenegger, please, get the coaster fixed as soon as possible. Thank you, again. Your Pal, Ed
Originally Posted By Nobody Because our governor gets in trouble for taking extra jobs and goofing off on the internet, he won't be replying to this thread. He is of course an anonymous member here, and is aware of the problem. He just won't be able to make that fact public. Underdog has also been informed of the issue, so let's just sit back and see what the outcome is.
