Originally Posted By mgmguy Just got back from Disney Saturday night.Wanted to share an incident that happened to me last Sunday at the studios and see how you all would have reacted to it.My parents and i had lunch at Sci-Fi and were seated in a 3 row cartable.My parents sat in front and i took the middle seat.There were two girls in the last row who were already there when we were seated. They left halfway through our meal and as we were finishing up i noticed a young guy and girl come up from the back of the restaurant and sit in the last row behind me.The table had not been cleared yet and no one had brought them in. Our waitress was clearly flustered to see them there and asked if they had checked in up front and had been brought in my a hostess.The guy did all the talking,saying they had.The waitress said this confused her as noone ever gets seated till tables are cleared and they should have been given menus,which they did not have.The man continued to insist that it was poor comunnication on the restaurant's part because they had been sat there.As we got up to leave,you could see management in back dicussing things,even as they were giving a drink order. More to come.
Originally Posted By mgmguy As we left,i caught the manager's eye and she asked if i had seen anything.I told her i was directly in front and had seen them come in from behind me with no Disney hostess but from where i could not be sure.She said that they were pretty sure that they knew what was going on and thanked me.We left the restaurant. 5 minutes later,we are walking down New York street and a guy steps out in front of me and says he wants to ask me a question.He wants to know why i would do something like that.I told him i had no idea what he was talking about,as right then i didn't.He asked me why i had to be a little b**** and stick my nose in his business.I knew then it was the guy from the restaurant. He contined cussing me out repeatedly as his girlfriend pulled him away and finished by calling me a fat f*** and flipping me off. Can't say i was really all that scared as i am a pretty big guy but left the park anyway,figuring i couldn't enjoy myself for the rest of the day.I'd be looking over my shoulder wondering if he was behind me. Funny thing was at that time,we saw no Disney workers or security around.Don't know if any guests realized what was going on but no one came up to us at all.
Originally Posted By TXDISNEYNERD What a creep. So he doesn't want to wait for a table like everyone else and when he gets called on it, he has to look for someone to blame. Sorry it ruined you fun day.
Originally Posted By mgmguy Can't really say it ruined my day.My mom was more upset than i was.She wanted to complain at guest relations in front of the park but i just wanted to let it go and be done with it.She finally insisted on telling someone when we got back to the hotel.She went to guest relations and told them what happened.They asked for a discription,which i did my best to give them then said they wanted to make it up to us,as no one should be treated like that at a Disney park.My mom insisted that she was not looking to get anything free,which she wasn't.She just wanted to vent to a Disney person.
Originally Posted By WDWdreamin Wow! Good job! They have a system and are trying to make it work and be fair to everybody. It is not his right to behave like that, and it IS other people's business to help figure things out when there is a problem (and innocent people are being yelled at). I'm sorry that no CM realized it earlier to stop him from being like that in the park. I'm sure he should have been thrown out for lying, harassing/threatning staff and guests, and majorly cursing. Again, glad there are people like you around.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 Wow, sorry that you had to experence that. I'm glad that nothing bad happened to you, to bad he was escorted out of the park for trying to steal a seat and then lie about it.
Originally Posted By jkayjs If there is a wait they always take a name. The CM could have asked for his name to "check who seated him". That could have resolved the problem & kept you from having to be involved.
Originally Posted By WDWdreamin I think that the guy was the problem, not that mgmguy was asked if he knew anything/involved. But yeah, I would assume they could confirm if he was on the list/seated by a CM.
Originally Posted By jkayjs It's obvious that the couple esp the guy was the problem. It's also reasonable to assume that had management not spoken with mgmguy it is doubtful that the jerk (who must have witnessed the exchange) would have thought he had a beef with him. The real thing that is obvious here is that all too many folks have a sense of entitlement coupled with a lack of manners. Oh well it's a world gone mad.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I witnessed similar bad behavior from a 'bully' type at Animal Kingdom a few years ago while in line for Flame Tree Bar-b-cue. ORWEN: This one young man was asking questions about the menu before he placed his order. The cast member was more than happy to answer each question. But there was this OTHER man--who acted more like a vicious brute than anything else--who didn't like the fact that somebody was 'wasting HIS time' by asking ANY questions at all. He stepped forward to the young man with the questions and demanded that he hurry up and order something without questioning anything. He also called him a name for having the audacity to 'hold up the line'. ORDDU: Fortunately, the young man ignored the bully while the cast member taking the orders came to his defense and told the 'bully' that everyone at a Disney park deserves to know exactly what they're ordering before they pay for it. ORWEN: The bully had a girlfriend who looked embarrassed by how her boyfriend was acting and she told him to keep his opinions to himself. But he wouldn't do it. He became even MORE vocal and tried to intimidate the other guest all the more with nasty comments that almost seemed like he was daring the guy to fight with him. ORDDU: If things had gone any further, we were prepared to lose our places in line and track down Security. But when the younger, nicer man continued to ignore the bully and proceeded with his order, things settled down a bit. ORWEN: But where do these bully types get off acting like they have the right to intimidate other people just for the fun of it? It's enough to make my cauldron boil when I see brutes like that in the parks!!!!
Originally Posted By sjhym33 That has been a big topic in our house recently. How people have a sense of entitlement and how rude people have become.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 God is great, beer is good and People are crazy. I know it's a country song but I thought it fit.
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie Witches, maybe you could share a simple bully hex with us. Something to turn those guys into piles of poo poo or something. Even if I'm not directly involved, when I see things like that happening to others, it ruins my day. It triggers those fight hormones and makes it hard to relax and enjoy the magic. We once called over security at Epcot when we saw a man just go ballistic and started berating and beating on his kids and wife. He was escorted out of the park.
Originally Posted By jkayjs One of the causes of the state we find ourselves in is this 'fast food' mentality aka 'instant gratification'. Folks talk about the 'good ole' days' with longing & affection for good reason. I'm talking about the emergence of the 'I want it all NOW' mind set we live with these days. Many of us don't know how to slow down & relax even on vacation as evidenced by this topic. It bleeds over into every part of our lives. Another part of the problem is the loss of 'it takes a village' way of thinking. When everyone voices disapproval of such behavior the bully has no where to go. There have been & will always be folks that bully but maybe it's time we took back our way of living by refusing to accept bad manners/behavior as unavoidable. I think one of the coolest things I've ever seen was @ Walmart. A women was about 4 people back in a line with an elderly man trying to write a check. She was grumbling so loud I could hear it in the next line & it appeared to be making the elderly gentleman nervous. He offered to step out of line & have his purchased voided as not to hold everyone up. There was a teenaged girl(maybe 16) next in line who told him to finish that she would take care of it. She stepped back to where the grumbling woman was & offered her a trade in line position so she could complete her purchase in a more timely manner. You could have heard a pin drop in that line as well as the ones on either side. I bet the security film for those 3 lines were hilarious as everyone stood with their mouths hung open. The women declined & didn't make another sound. I sure wished I knew who she was so I could have called her parents, how proud they would be but I bet they already knew what she was made of. OK long way to say we need to treat each other like we want to be treated.
Originally Posted By DAR RE post 10. I'll admit if I was the guy behind the question question guy I would have been getting a little antsy and probably rolling my eyes. But I would have either stayed there or if it wasn't a busy time of day to eat probably just found a different line. Although if the cashier was cute I would have likely stayed in line.
Originally Posted By DAR Early this summer I was golfing with some friends. And we're on a par 3 hole, all of us are lining up to putt. Now if you're playing slow you let the group behind you play through but we were keeping a good pace. So my friend lines up to put and a golf ball not from our foursome lands about four feet from the cup. So we're thinking maybe it's a mistake and they didn't realize we're still on, though it was that hard to see we were on the green. I mean the flag from the hole was down. Then a second ball lands on the green, and then a third. Finally we all yell(an unprintable word) at these guys. The fourth guy doesn't tee off yet. But as we're walking back, ball closest to the hole, oops I walked into it with my putter and "accidentally" knocked it back thirty feet. Another ball ended up in a sand trap. And the third ball, well there was a steep hill you had to hit it up to get on the green. Well what you know that ended at the bottom of the hill. We finally see these guys at the end and they asked what the deal was with moving their shots. I simply said well we were still on the green you couldn't wait. They stated we were playing too slow. We all asked well did you ever thinking of asking us if you guys could play through. They stated they shouldn't have too that we should have played faster, though we played the acceptable pace. And then they had the audacity to ask us to apologize for moving their shots out of the way. And my friend on behalf of the group gave them a two word answer but it wasn't "We're sorry" it was a three word answer with the word "yourselves" contained in the response. They pretty much shut up after that.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Something similar happened to me once, but it was on the fairway of a par 5. They actually overshot our position by a bit. Unfortunately, that put one of their balls directly in the path of our golf cart's wheel - it was simply unavoidable . They later asked if we had taken or moved their ball, and fortunately we were able to answer truthfully and with a straight face that we hadn't.
