New "Animation" hotel

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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    Yep. They just announced it.

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    Latest News: Disney's Art of Disney Animation Resort Announced - <a href="http://bit.ly/bInaWx" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/bInaWx</a> Via RT @wdwnt
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    I'm not pleased, the money should go to our parks.
     
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    Originally Posted By leobloom

    Just what they need: 2000 more discounted hotel rooms.
     
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    Originally Posted By BrianStarr

    >>The hotel wings will be separated into four distinct groups, each with a theme from a different animated movie: The Little Mermaid, The Lion King, Finding Nemo and Cars.<<

    Wouldn't Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and Lion King be more appropriate?
     
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    Originally Posted By trekkeruss

    And leave out Pixar? No way would Disney do that.
     
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    Originally Posted By BrianStarr

    Then it should be called "Art of Disney and Pixar Animation Resort"
     
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    Originally Posted By trekkeruss

    If the basis is "art," I would go with Pinocchio, Fantasia, Sleeping Beauty, and Beauty and the Beast.
     
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    Originally Posted By -em

    Interesting.

    Name kinda stinks and the movie choices are not totally ones I'd pick but I'd glad on seeing the Pop Graveyard used...
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    Remember when they built rides?

    *grumble*
     
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    Originally Posted By WDWFigment

    I guess I'll be the lone positive voice on this topic.

    1) "Art" doesn't necessarily dictate that the most high brow artistic endeavors be utilized. I would contend that each of the films chosen is animated art. Perhaps not the greatest Art of Disney filmmaking, but art nonetheless. The movies were undoubtedly chosen on the basis not only of what art, but of what properties have the highest value to Disney (i.e. what properties kids have interest). What's so bad about that? So long as that intersects with art (which it does here), there are no complaints from me.

    2) Disney owns Pixar now. Crazy, but Disney wants to incorporate highly successful/profitable/etc. properties that it owns into its parks. Would calling it "Disney & Pixar's Art of Animation Resort" really assuage any concerns, or is it just something about which you can complain? I don't see this as a realistic substantive complaint.

    3) The Walt Disney World Resort builds more than just attractions. While I agree that more rides would be great, unique areas of demand in each sector of the Resort dictate what should be built. Resorts wouldn't be built if not expected to turn a profit. Attractions would be built if expected to turn a profit. It's not as if one precludes the other from happening (same fallacy as those who argue that "Disney is spending all its money on DCA makeover, so FL doesn't get any"). Monetary investments are made where there will be return on investment. If anything, building a profitable resort might help finance future construction of the parks (if anything, increased capacity at the resorts tends to suggest that future increased capacity in the parks will occur). In short, I don't think it was ever an issue where management sat down at a table and said, "We'll either build Beastly Kingdom or Animation Hotel...which should we pick?!"

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see more attractions, but what's the point of grumbling about the construction of something unrelated (imo) to the construction of attractions?

    All of this assumes they are unrelated...I'm more than happy to hear what others think on that issue.
     
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    Originally Posted By trekkeruss

    <<I would contend that each of the films chosen is animated art. Perhaps not the greatest Art of Disney filmmaking, but art nonetheless. The movies were undoubtedly chosen on the basis not only of what art, but of what properties have the highest value to Disney>>

    If all animated films are art, then they didn't choose the films for their art, but solely on which have the highest consumer value.
     
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    Originally Posted By BrianStarr

    ^^agreed
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    This will be the closest reort, physically, to the new High Speed Rail station.
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    What a joke. They can't even fill the rooms they have without heavy discounting, but they need to add more?

    Just proves yet again that those running WDW have no idea what they're doing.

    <<if anything, increased capacity at the resorts tends to suggest that future increased capacity in the parks will occur>>

    They've been increasing capacity at the resorts for a DECADE and haven't added anything to capacity. And FLE isn't even a net addition, it's a fixing of the MK since a lot of that parks capacity has been wrecked.
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf


    Publicity photo:

    <a href="http://thedailydisney.com/files/2010/05/artanimation.jpg" target="_blank">http://thedailydisney.com/file...tion.jpg</a>

    Can someone tell me what's up with the trident that it had to be photoshopped? Either the tines are photoshopped in or something in the background was photoshopped out.
     
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    Originally Posted By Krankenstein

    Why can't they just finish Pop Century? It would work a lot better across Hour Glass Lake and Generation Gap Bridge.
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    Did you see the themes for the other half of Pop Century?

    Some were cute, but most were very dry and sort of boring. They'd all be the like the country western section of music - no one really wants to be stuck there.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    >What a joke. They can't even fill the rooms they have without heavy discounting, but they need to add more?

    Just proves yet again that those running WDW have no idea what they're doing.<

    Sorry, but that's just complete nonsense. Disney is, if anything, a company run by spreadsheets these days. And they wouldn't go ahead with a project like this if the spreadsheets didn't show that there was a money making opportunity here. And like others I'll be happy to not see those bare bones relics across the way from the Pop!
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    Spreadsheet says that attendance is back to the pre-9/11 levels and that at the same time demand for suites for larger family groups are in demand. Simple as that.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    Wow - if nothing else, seeing danyoung and mousermerf in agreement is worth the price of this thread!
     
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    Originally Posted By wahooskipper

    I think this is a good idea, particularly since they are concentrating on suites. I go up to Orlando regularly but I very rarely stay on Disney property. With two young children staying the night in a small room with two beds just isn't appealing.

    I don't want to go to sleep when the kids do but if they stay up late they can be "villains" the next day.

    A "value" resort that has suites seems like a missing ingredient in the lineup.
     

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