Originally Posted By davewasbaloo The DLP one is nice, but the dragon breathes smoke, not real fire (any more). Otherwise this gives a good overview: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/disneylandparis#p/c/B42D66EC3FDB67E9/3/yDa0RuPnnZ0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/disneyl...0RuPnnZ0</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo And although much maligned, I have always enjoyed my time in the Studios (though it could use a good themed table service restaurant). <a href="http://www.youtube.com/disneylandparis#p/c/B42D66EC3FDB67E9/2/XU_WNgkt6yI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/disneyl...WNgkt6yI</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo And here is a reasonable overview of the hotels: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/disneylandparis#p/c/B42D66EC3FDB67E9/4/0N1gPiTxXEk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/disneyl...gPiTxXEk</a> Sadly, the only good quality hotel these days is the DLH IMHO (and it is outragously overpriced, but fun).
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo And althought DTD is nicer in DL and WDW, Annette's, the Steak House, King Ludwigs, and Buffalo Bill's Wild West show still makes our version very cool. Just not as good as it could be. Disney Village (nee Festival Disney) <a href="http://www.youtube.com/disneylandparis#p/c/B42D66EC3FDB67E9/1/mi50D3qdxHA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/disneyl...0D3qdxHA</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo And here is why 2009 was a mixed year (largely forgetable for the guests - put a Starbucks in what used to be one of the best themed stores in the resort, take out two awesome shows; amongst Disney's best in the world - The Lion King and Tarzan; and put in all this Mickey rubbish, including ruining Buffalo Bills). <a href="http://www.youtube.com/disneylandparis#p/c/B42D66EC3FDB67E9/0/8PkJc5TByb8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/disneyl...Jc5TByb8</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo 2010 is not turning out much better sadly: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/disneylandparis#p/a/u/1/GRBLbS-1mLM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/disneyl...LbS-1mLM</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Back when DLP was getting on the right track, may she soon return, the opening of Stitch Live and Tower of Terror: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/disneylandparis#p/u/13/CN92cr9_wJA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/disneyl...2cr9_wJA</a>
Originally Posted By mousermerf God those horrid little mini tram trains.. everywhere at every tourist trap in and around Paris.. it's like they're a requirement.. Disney Village is just gross at DLP and the whole time I was there I wanted to pressure wash it myself. This want not a singular visit and one-off either - it was constantly morning, afternoon, evening, weekday, weekend, whenever: a mess. Only the metro stations are more unattractive. Things would be broken and tossed on the floor in the middle of a store and just left there for hours. Not to mention they'd just put broken or damaged stock right back on the shelf and hope it sold. Add to that the walkways between the parks and Village crowded with gypses and their blankets and their little worthless trinkets and Eiffel towers shouting to you to buy from them in the demilitarized zone that apparently Disney doesn't control. Real fricken Magical. And don't get me started on their version of the "Wild West." Ha!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Mickey's magical party time last year: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/disneylandparis#p/u/33/zDS547QEB3E" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/disneyl...547QEB3E</a> Now the problem is, this is the press party, the actual event for guests was no where near as grand. If so, maybe we would have been happier with it.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed, the Village in the Day is blah, and at night, it is not as cool as it used to be. But Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show is one of the finest productions Disney has ever done.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo As for the street vendors, con artists and all the others, yes, they totally ruin it. Sadly given the laws about railways, there is nothing that can be done about it.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Umm.. Oh-kay.. It's just a Medieval Times or Arabian Nights type dinner show.. with the French (poorly) portraying western stereotypes..
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo mousemerf, how ignorant are you? It is an almost prefect reproduction of the original show. I researched deeply into the original BB, and this is a very good reproduction of the show that ran at the base of the Eiffel Tower. Medieval Times and Arabian Nights are terrible shows, really bad sets, effects and acting. The same cannot be said about BBWWS IMHO. But heck, you're the guy that thinks that WDW is all beautiful and that DL and DLP are crap. So I am not surprised by your comments.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo FWIW, a lot of the cast are US imports with a few frenchmen, unless things have radically changed lately. Also Bison are an increadibly rare sight in Europe, as are long horn steer.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I have seen so far: California - Medieval Times & Wild Bills (when it existed) Florida - Arabian Nights, Capones, Polynesian Luau at WDW, and Dixie Stampede Mallorca - Pirates Live And BBWWS 16 times or so. Of them all, the only ones I would want to repeat are the Poly Luau and Buffalo Bills.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Well, they were common in America too until people Europe came over and nearly killed them all, your point?
Originally Posted By mousermerf The thing is though, if the Epcot pavilion for France had anything that blatantly offensive there would be all kinds of screaming Frenchmen protesting daily - and you know they would cuz they protest at the drop of a hat. So having been there and experienced it I can say for my country men, yes, it is entirely offensive and stereotypical the way the "wild west" is portrayed. Yes, there are some parts that are menats to be humerous and I appeciate those parts of it, but there are some parts that clearly cross the lines of taste or even moderate understanding of the culture. Think over the Tokyo Disney Sea anniversary Dream films and that Vanilla chick. Tell me she wasn't an offensive stereotype. Japan doesn't understand Vanilla and Paris doesn't get the West.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo But it was designed in Glendale and was even considered for WDW at Buffalo Junction. I think you are reading too much into it. This is pretty accurate a representation as the original show was. There are lots of texts that show how much William Cody played up the stereo types. I take my half American kids to see it with pride. I don't understand what your problem with it is?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo FWIW though, I agree with you on the dirt factor of the Village (and other parts of the resort), they do have difficulty keeping the place clean. Though the filthiest Disney location I have ever been to is the Magic Kingdom in Florida, especially around the hub.
