Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ...that I might be a bit nuts for having a problem with the fact that out of five days I was at Pop Century, the pool closed four of them when I was at it because someone's child defacated in the swimming pool? Do you think this is acceptable behavior? Do you think these people are well-bred? Do you think this is ... say, disgusting? Do you think Disney needs to clamp down on this by placing LARGE, BOLD, NASTY signs by the pool stating that toddlers and young kids MUST wear swim diapers or will be EJECTED from the pool? Oh, and do you think I'd have a red block in my file if I went to the front desk and demanded to speak to a manager about it? I really want opinions because I have traveled all over and stayed at mom and pop places, low level Comfort Inns, Hojos etc ... right on up to 5 star world-class resorts and I have NEVER witnessed this yet I ALWAYS see it at WDW. Have people become total animals? Please, someone tell me, it's just me. Go on ... ~the Spirit knows~
Originally Posted By TDLFAN No, it happens to me as well.. Just the other day, we had to lock one of our lavatories on the flight back from Tokyo because some ignorant traveler decided to smear his (brown matter) all over the toilet seat, as opposed to deposit it in the toilet itself and flush. But Disney has brought this on for offering cheaper options in their resort lineup. They get what they are able to pay for. Very sad situation Spirited one and I sure hope you are now safe and sound from beasts in your spiritual retreat.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^I am safely ensconced on my sofa watching college football. I just wonder if Meg or Erin or Al or Jay would want to swim in, or have their family swim in, a pool that gets defacated in daily?
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey I don't think it has as much to do with the fact that Disney is offering lower priced rooms as it does that people are just disgusting nowadays and don't give a tiny rat's backside. Many people, regardless of their income level, don't care about anyone else as long as THEY don't have to go to any trouble. More than likely they didn't feel like changing the into a swim diaper. Too much trouble, in their opinion. In our temporary office we have two unisex bathrooms. I went to use the restroom the other day and there were spots of urine on the floor around the toilet. When I started complaining, I found out that one of the very respected, genteel, VERY well off male physicians in our department had used the facilities just before me and left a mess. Money doesn't buy class.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey Nothing much has changed around here, TDLFAN. The nation and the city still think that only poor people were affected by the storm, so every effort is being made to take care of them while hardworking, middle class people like my friends, who actually pay their insurance premiums, are fighting for every last dollar they get. The crime rate is shooting up again, too, even though the city is at about half its population before the storm. And that is why I live in the suburbs!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Well Good for you. Sorry to hear some folks are having insurance problems.. Our house got flooded a few weeks ago and our home owners insurance just settled with us for a very nice amount... It happened so quickly, I can't still believe it! Best of luck for those of you there..an hang on. Bush won't be around much longer.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Money doesn't buy class.>> You are 100% correct. I've seen the pools closed at WL, DAK Lodge, PO, Boardwalk, Contemp for the same problem just off the top of my head. But NEVER at a hotel anywhere else. I am just wondering what it is about Disney that attracts such boorish, pathetic excuses for humanity ...
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey TDLFAN, my motto is "this too, shall pass". I just hope it passes sooner rather than later! One thing we have to look forward to: the Saints are playing in the Superdome on Monday for the first time since the storm, and the city is basically shutting down early so peopple can participate in the festivities. I'll be wearing my black and gold to work on Monday!
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<I am just wondering what it is about Disney that attracts such boorish, pathetic excuses for humanity ...>> I believe a lot of it has to do with the "This vacation is for the kids, so they can do whatever they want", mentality. They don't care about you or me or anyone else, as long as the kids don't whine, they'll let them do whatever they want - even at the expense of our comfort. Many Disney guests come to the parks WITHOUT kids, and the stroller nazis don't realize that - they think they have the run of the place and that we have to live with them. On a trip last year, my mom and I saw two elderly couples sitting in the food court at Port Orleans having coffee. Turns out that one of the couples was at WDW to celebrate their anniversary, and brought their friends along for the ride. They didn't have any children with them at all, it was just them. But do the stroller nazis care? Probably not - they probably nearly knocked at least one of those people over in an attempt to catch a parade/board a monorail/ride an attraction/get ice cream.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I've seen the pools closed at WL, DAK Lodge, PO, Boardwalk, Contemp for the same problem just off the top of my head. But NEVER at a hotel anywhere else.>> Might it not be the case that WDW guests aren't any more boorish, and that the other hotels you've stayed at haven't had the volume of children present, where witnessing such behaviour would be more rare than at a family resort?
Originally Posted By kennect I think Trek is right...This kind of thing could and would happen anywhere...
Originally Posted By Labuda I just consider myself lucky that I've never experienced this. Yet. *phew*
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I'll bet plenty a child has peed in the pool without your knowledge. And if you think about it, if you've ever swam in the ocean, it's just teaming with the waste of all those fishes and other marine life.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I think Trek is right...This kind of thing could and would happen anywhere...>> Yet, in my experience, it doesn't. But it does happen repeatedly at WDW. One lifeguard told me when I confronted her that 'it doesn't happen every day ... just a lot' ... Again, I'd love to hear someone tell me they've seen this anywhere else even once.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I'll bet plenty a child has peed in the pool without your knowledge. And if you think about it, if you've ever swam in the ocean, it's just teaming with the waste of all those fishes and other marine life.>> So, you think it's perfectly OK for kids (and hell, I'm sure adults have done it too) to take a crap in a swimming pool? Is this right? It wouldn't bother you? You'd jump right in? You wouldn't mind being told every day that the pool was closed (they don't announce why, naturally) when you wanted to use it?
Originally Posted By kennect Spirit not only do kids do this adults do also...Not necessarily at a pool at Disney though....I can't even begin to tell you a story about a public restroom I walked into one day, at a very upscale place, and what I found when walking in....It was digusting...It isn't something that happens everywhere all of the time so no wonder you haven't come across it but it does happen...Get over it...
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<So, you think it's perfectly OK for kids (and hell, I'm sure adults have done it too) to take a crap in a swimming pool?>> <<-- Slaps Spirit up-side the head. No, I don't think it's perfectly okay.... don't be stupid. I was only responding to labuda who said that she is happy she hadn't experienced anyone poopping in the pool, by saying that she HAS experienced it; she just didn't know about it. My example of about the ocean is merely to say that if you think about anything too much, you'd be petrified to go anywhere.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad As the father of 6 children, 2 of them in diapers... I say there is no excuse for a child crapping anywhere other than the woods or a toilet. A swim diaper can EASILY prevent this. So Spirit, I would be angry, not at management, but at the lazy parents that let it happen.
Originally Posted By Labuda Chris, in case you haven't heard it recently - you're a great dad, dude! ^5!
