Originally Posted By KachinaBear I was watching my Beauty and the Beast dvd the other day for about the dozenth time and it occurred to me there are certain questions regarding this film that have been plagueing my mind for over a decade. Such as: How old is the Beast? The curse states the rose is to bloom until the prince's "twenty-first year", and during the main part of the story the rose is just starting to lose its petals. Does that mean he has recently turned twenty-one? If so, how old was he when he was enchanted? In the song "Be Our Guest," the singers state, "it's been ten years since we've had anybody here..." From that am I to deduct he was eleven years old at the time of the enchantment? I don't see how! The portrait of the prince shows a young man, not a child... and if he were a kid, wouldn't his parents be around some place? Also, what about the other people in the castle... Mrs. Potts, Lumiere, etc. Did they age at all during the enchantment? If so, I figure Chip must have been born a teacup since he's obviously less than ten years old! What a weird thought! Also, does Chip have a father? He has a lot of siblings. Anyway, I'm happy to get these questions off my chest... hopefully someone here can shed some light on the subject, or at least share in my confusion.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy I thought he was 11 at the time of the enchantment too---just a big-lookin' 11 year-old, lol. And yeah, they would have been enchanted for 10 years which would make him 21---personally, I don't think the servants aged at all while they were inanimate objects. <I figure Chip must have been born a teacup since he's obviously less than ten years old! What a weird thought!> LOL! <Also, does Chip have a father? He has a lot of siblings.> Hmmm, maybe Mrs. Potts "got it on" with that there masculine, fierce-tempered stove...maybe Mrs. Potts' husband died before the enchantment.
Originally Posted By basil fan All legitimate questions. I personally don't think the animatores realized the mistakes they were making (unless they did & hoped nobody would notice). They should have made it clear that the characters didn't age while enchanted, & said the rose would bloom for 10 years, regardless of the prince's age. Disney Glitch Index <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/glitch/disneyglitch.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ glitch/disneyglitch.html</a>
Originally Posted By mickeymeg I was always curious about his name, after all we can't keep calling him beast after he changes back to a human. I asked Belle when I met them both in DL and she told me his name is Vincint. Then he even signed my autograph book as such. Cant argue with that =)
Originally Posted By DlandDug His name is Adam. And don't think too hard about the chronology of Beauty and the Beast. Really...
Originally Posted By DlandDug <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty_and_the_beast#Movie_versions" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B eauty_and_the_beast#Movie_versions</a> >>The Beast's name was never mentioned in the movie (though according to The Official Disney Encyclopedia by Dave Smith the Beast's name is Adam).<<
Originally Posted By mickeymeg I will continue to think of him as Prince Vincent. That is what Belle told me and I think she is the authority on this. =)
Originally Posted By basil fan The reason some people think his name is vincent is rather interesting. If you look at the stained glass window with the prince standing in the center, you see the legend "Vincit qui se vincit" which I think means "He conquers who conquers himself." I could be wrong on the translation, but it certainly doesn't mean "My name is Vincent." Many people think the Beast's name is Vincent because of this window, but I have seen him called Adam in many Disney sources. My problem with "Adam" is that it's not very French. Less Is More <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/etc/sherlock.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ etc/sherlock.html</a>
Originally Posted By Deogges Mom Is it possible that Disney's Beast has become confused with Vincent, the Beast from the TV series starring Linda Hamilton and Ron Perlman?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Adam???? Huh, The Beast deserves a better name than that.<< I vote for Carl. Carl D'beast. Yep. Carl. I think he looks like a Carl.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>maybe Mrs. Potts' husband died before the enchantment.<< He was alive and well at the time of the enchantment. His name was John. Yes, John P. Potts. What happened to him wasn't pretty, let me tell you. Disney mercifully chose to cut him from the picture.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Dang you, now I'm intrigued!! <---awaits "The E! True Hollywood Story: 'Beauty and the Beast'"
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire I always thought when lumiere said "10 years we've been rusting..." it was a bit of an exaggeration.
Originally Posted By JeffG On the age issue, I believe the filmmakers generally consider it to be a continuity error as the prince was clearly older than 11 at the beginning. In the stage version, they changed the opening narration (which still uses a recorded version read by David Ogden Stiers) to say that the rose would bloom for "many years". -Jeff
