Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest-ID-81020.asp" target="_blank"><b>Latest: Video: New Villages Nature Resort Coming to Disneyland Paris in 2016</b></a> <p>From the Disneyland Paris YouTube channel:</p> <p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span>Villages Nature is a project of a new holiday destination on a European scale, for short- and mid-term stays, and will be based on the search for harmony between Man and Nature. This joint project, led by two key players in French and European tourism: Euro Disney and Pierre & Vacances Center Parcs, is located in Marne-la-Vallée, 6 km from Disneyland Paris and close to Val d'Europe. The opening of Villages Nature is scheduled for 2016.</span></p> <p><span>[[yt:</span>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQDeUryiv4&feature=youtube_gdata]]</p>
Originally Posted By TP2000 This video is hilarious. The use of PC buzzwords and Euro-intellectualism is dizzying. It's almost like a parody of itself, where they just start throwing buzzwords together into a sentence and it sounds impressive unless you actually pay attention to the grammar and phrasing to realize it doesn't really mean anything. That said.... what an interesting concept. Is there really an existing market for this sort of mega-project in Europe? Or is this the first of its kind? And I have to think that a big chunk of those families will spend several days at Disneyland Paris, taking in singing robots and cheesy parades and eating junk food and buying chunks of plastic no one really needs as souvenirs. How does that mesh with the Village Nature message exactly? Odd, but funny. Only in France could you pull this off with a straight face.
Originally Posted By leemac This project was a bargaining chip when ED/TWDC needed to renegotiate the public/private partnership agreement with the state and the myriad of government offices. Thankfully TWDC aren't contributing much cash to this deal - basically just the land rights. This is a huge gamble for Pierre+Vacances - they have never built or operated anything so big. They do have Center Parcs in their portfolio which is a similar concept - albeit on a much smaller scale. I still think the location won't be appealing. P+V will probably be able to shift the timeshares as they are very good in that space but the short-term rentals will be a problem. If it was being built in an environment with warmer winters it might work but the harsh realities of perishingly cold winters in Paris will hit their numbers. This is win/win for ED - virtually no commitment and guaranteed new guests on-site that might visit the parks or Village etc. The only potential downside might be a cannibalization of Davy Crockett Ranch sales but that is likely to be minimal.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I love the concept. The only thing that puzzles me is the indoor water park. I'm curious to see what the final product looks like.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>This project was a bargaining chip when ED/TWDC needed to renegotiate the public/private partnership agreement with the state and the myriad of government offices. Thankfully TWDC aren't contributing much cash to this deal - basically just the land rights.<<< Are you talking about the new general agreement that was negotiated in 2010, which allows ED SCA to build the third park until 2030 instead of 2017? Do you know if DLP Hotel guests can visit the water park as well. I wish Lava Lagoon would have been built. I've senn some concept arts and it looked amazing. As for the third park, I wouldn't be surprised if it wouldn't get built at all- Good to know that ED SCA isn't investing that much into that project, although I really like it. Hopefully it helps to bring more vivitors to the parks.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Are you talking about the new general agreement that was negotiated in 2010, which allows ED SCA to build the third park until 2030 instead of 2017?>> Yup - the September 14 2010 agreement as it is called. It is wider than just the third theme park as it covers urban development through Ile de France. <<Do you know if DLP Hotel guests can visit the water park as well. I wish Lava Lagoon would have been built. I've senn some concept arts and it looked amazing. As for the third park, I wouldn't be surprised if it wouldn't get built at all->> The water park isn't particularly large and is reserved for Village Nature timeshare owners and renters at present. Lava Lagoon was just too big, grandiose and expensive. I think it would have struggled to operate profitably in this guise. I also think the location next to the Marina (behind the Sequoia) probably wasn't the right spot to attract guests.
Originally Posted By dagobert Is there any chance that DLP will get a waterpark in the future, instead of a third themepark. Or does DLP have to build a traditional themepark?
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ Theme park is defined in the agreement so it specifically refers to that. Doesn't mean that ED couldn't build an indoor water park as well. The problem is that they aren't as unique now as they were back in '92. It would be difficult to come up with one that really pushed the envelope.
Originally Posted By dagobert That's bad, but maybe on a smaller scale. Do you think we will really see a third park by 2030? I mean it will take another ten years to expand WDSP into a real Disney park and I'm not sure if there's a demand for a third park. I know there are still 18 years left, but I'm sceptical.
Originally Posted By u k fan Whilst there is certainly some corporate babble in that video, I think first and foremost it's a bad translation of the original French. If they don't lay on transport from the resort to DLP all that eco-friendly work will be for nothing. It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if I'll ever visit!!!
