Originally Posted By magic0214 I have heard this is a rename of "The Snow Queen" in the same vein as Rapunzel and Tangled. Thoughts? Here is the link <a href="http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/12/22/the-avengers-3d-frozen/" target="_blank">http://insidemovies.ew.com/201...-frozen/</a>
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA 'Frozen'...oh brother... Perhaps, they'll learn that titles like this are 'Crappy'
Originally Posted By tonyanton I don't like the title changes, but I understand the reasoning behind it. Now that "Tangled" is a hit, it would be cool if they changed it back to "Rapunzel" for future dvd's/airings/etc. They could do something like "Rapunzel" (Tangled).
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: The whole title change shows how little regard the Disney Company has for the fans of these fairy tales. Also what they're doing is misleading. And why? Because they think being 'hip and edgy' sells? Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland didn't have to change it's name to make more money. And the fact that 'Tangled' did so well at the box office really didn't have anything to do with it's title change. It was popular despite Disney's trying to meddle with the title. They really need to have their heads knocked together in the marketing department. When you change the title of a fairytale, as they are doing, it cheapens the movie to a certain degree and makes it less timeless. Thank goodness Uncle Walt didn't change the original titles to his fairytales. ORWEN: Yeah, the current marketing people at Disney are just a bunch of bone heads, if you ask me.
Originally Posted By basil fan Isn't Frozen a friend of the Incredibles? Oh, wait... So, is this 'Frozen' movie CGI? Is it The Snow Queen?
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle The name change from "Rapunzel" to "Tangled" didn't harm that movie one bit for me (I love it), so it doesn't really bother me what they call it. I'm willing to hold judgement until it's released!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: If you're not a fan of the original tales, Disney's decision to change a title most likely won't bother you. But if you care about the original stories as much as some of us do, it's like a loss of identity and dignity when someone comes along and changes the title for whatever reason. Rapunzel sounds so much more romantic than 'tangled'. It didn't affect the film's story what-so-ever. But it might have made the difference as to whether or not someone chose to see the movie. In this case there was so much publicity over a film that took so many twists and turns from 1993 until 2010 that I suspect a lot of ducklings went to see it out of curiosity more than anything else. But it also turned out to be quite well done. ORWEN: Anyway, how would you like it if somebody came along and insisted you change your name from whatever it is now to something different? Would that bother you? ORGOCH: Well, heck! Somebody should a come along an changed YER name ta Fat Slob a long time ago, sister!! (sounds of thrashings and trashings along with a deadly silence...)
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Changing the old fairy tale titles to more abstract adjectives strikes at the heart of post-moderism. Switching from 'Rapunzel' to 'Tangled' lightly touches on the premise of her insanely long hair and the conundrum of hooking up with Flynn. The title change didn't effect the success of the film because the word 'tangled' doesn't immediately elicit a fully negative and intolerable response. Uncomfortable, yes, but not intolerable. Changing 'The Snow Queen' to 'Frozen' is another matter. 'Frozen' tends to immediately elicit a fully negative and intolerable response, unless the word is used in conjunction with a popular food such as ice cream or shaved ice during warm weather. But utilizing the word alone tends to elicit thoughts and feelings of freezing in the bitter cold, more so than dealing with another individual who is totally without compassion and empathy (which I assume is the response that Disney wants to evoke with the change). But the word is more problematic, and not as subject neutral as 'tangled.' I strongly suspect that most individuals will think of temperature first instead of temperament upon hearing or reading the single word title, especially given that this is holiday flick for release in November. The original title of 'Snow Queen' doesn't necessarily suggest sub-freezing temperatures whereas 'Frozen' tends to sound more like a docudrama about hikers stranded on Mount Everest.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Well I'm relieved on one account, at least. I was worried that "Frozen" would be an animated docu-drama on the ultimate fate of Walt Disney...!
Originally Posted By basil fan I think the title change is stupid. However, I'd rather a good movie with a stupid title than a stupid movie with a good title.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Well I'm relieved on one account, at least. I was worried that "Frozen" would be an animated docu-drama on the ultimate fate of Walt Disney...!> Wouldn't it actually be "charred?"
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Despite the official name change to 'Tangled', many people (myself included) tend to just call the movie 'Rapunzel'. It's just easier to say, sounds more like the title of a story, and better reminds other people in the conversation what the heck you're talking about. Even though they may have changed the title at the beginning of the film, many people still refer to it by the original name, regardless of what they know about the marketing drama behind it. And isn't it a little early for them to have a final title in place? Looking at various exhibits on Tangled, it looked like the working title for the project was 'Hair'. That of course never came to be (perhaps because it has already been used by the 60's musical about love and peace), so who is to say that this title is permanent? They will start very preliminary marketing attempts soon-ish, but I would assume that the story isn't finalized yet (it semdom is, this early in development) so there's no reason to think that the title has been, either.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>I think the title change is stupid. However, I'd rather a good movie with a stupid title than a stupid movie with a good title.<< Yeah, that's what I was trying to say too. I don't really see the need to change the title, but as long as the film's good, that's all I care about. (Whether the film is good or not, of course, won't be seen until 2013!)
Originally Posted By basil fan If I could live with The Great Mouse Detective instead of Basil of Baker Street, I can live with this. Funny thing, when I accidentally call the movie "Rapunzel", I try to correct myself and can't think of the word "Tangled." When I say "Tangled", somehow I can never think of the heroine's name.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 This kind of strikes me as laziness and/or attempting to cash in on the latest success (which, of course, are frequently allied syndromes). Tangled was a success critically and commercially. Hey - why not take ANOTHER classic tale and do the same thing with the title? Can't miss! We're geniuses, I tell you, geniuses! I agree with those who said that the bottom line is whether the movie is any good or not, though.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Now that "Tangled" is a hit, it would be cool if they changed it back to "Rapunzel" for future dvd's/airings/etc.<< Why not "The Adventures of Tangled"? Trying to imagine how you could possibly turn The Snow Queen into a light-hearted Tangled-ish sort of movie without a wholesale scrapping of the original story. Failing.
