Originally Posted By RoadTrip If Disney were to develop a 5th park at WDW, what do you think the theme should be?? I would develop ‘Disney’s Storyland.’ This would be a park based upon significant books of all types and eras. I envision “lands†devoted to Science Fiction, Mysteries, Fantasy, History, Biography, etc. I think Storyland would have endless possibilities, and is a theme where new attractions should never be a problem. People keep saying Epcot should get back to being more educational, but I just don’t see the direction going that way. This new park would give Disney a whole park where they can do what no one else does as well… Edutainment. Think of the possibilities… when you exited an attraction you would be dumped into a store that instead of selling only plush, sold the book the attraction was based on and other books by the same author or having a similar theme. Maybe kids would even read again. Of course you would have attraction related toys and (choke) perhaps even plush. But Disney would really try to keep a majority of the offerings somewhat education related. So, what do you think? Would a park like this have any chance of being successful? What would you suggest for a 5th gate at Disney World?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I think a Villains park is long overdue. Of course, I would love to see them take a crack at an extreme park (coasters and thrill rides).
Originally Posted By avromark Of course in reality it wouldn't be feasible, but wouldn't parks 5,6,7,8 for WDW be nice and park 3 for DLR?
Originally Posted By Kane22 Agreed with TDLFAN, infact WDW doesn't need a 5th theme park at all. Just look Animal Kingdom is eight years old & still needs alot to work on. MGM Studios needs alot of work as well because that whole park is outdated with the shows & it needs to expand to make ways for more attractions. EPCOT is going to get better for the 25th anniversary & Magic Kingdom just needs to chill & let the other parks catch up. So in my books this will all take about a good 10 to 15 years for some of the parks to improve. And in my open view I really don't want to see a 5th park in a long time!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>EPCOT is going to get better for the 25th anniversary<< Hahaha!! Now that is a laugh! >>Magic Kingdom just needs to chill & let the other parks catch up.<< Hahaha! Another huge laugh!! If you know what you are talking about, it is the MK that needs to catch up, not only with the technology found at it's sister parks, but also with the rest of the Disneyland parks around the World.
Originally Posted By Kane22 What are you talking about? All the other WDW parks need to get more attractions while Magic Kingdom has the most they should stop adding more to MK & focus on MGM & AK. And did you hear EPCOT is going to get a fix up for the 25th birthday. And I do know what I'm talking about okay maybe TDL's Magic Kingdom is better but still TDL only has 2 parks while WDW has 4 & mostly all of them need new things to go in.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper There will be a 5th park...it is only a matter of when...and on what scale. They didn't buy all that land for nothing.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN This has NOTHING to do with TDL being better or NOT, so don't even go there. This has got to do with the fact that the MK offerings are grossly outdated and in need of major refurbishings and updates/upgrades to bring them up to standards with the similar offerings at ALL other Disneyland parks around the World. All other WDW parks got new (and continue to get new) rides in the past 2 years, while the MK's 35 year old rides look that old. Certainly NOT worth a $72 a day nor worth purchasing a 5+ day passport. And *THAT* is what I am talking about mr. rookie.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>They didn't buy all that land for nothing.<< Conservation was part of the original effort, but who knows that's up with that now. I much rather they preserve land for it's sake than to see it violated by yet another unneeded park or cheap economy hotel. I can only see a 5th park coming to WDW once someone else announces a brand new concept to be built in Central FL. Only then, will Disney see the need to build a park to compete head on, just like the rushed MGM into production in hopes that Universal would back out of the Orlando deal. The market is saturated and building another park would be corporate suicide for ANY company in town.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Hmm, I really enjoyed Philharmagic on my most recent trip (which I hadn't seen before) and enjoyed the addition of Jack Sparrow at Pirates. I also enjoyed the refurbishment of the Jungle Cruise, got a kick out of the Tiki Room (yes...I know I'm sick) and my kid had a blast on a multitude of rides he's never seen before. There is room for improvement...but I hardly think the MK is dire. We had a BLAST! I'd watch for a park to the right side of World Drive as you pass the Epcot turnoff. That is some property that I think will be getting some attention down the road.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>There is room for improvement...but I hardly think the MK is dire. We had a BLAST!<< The MK may not be dire to you, but it is to me because I see what the other parks are offering on a regualr basis and many times more, the MK comes lagging behind. Ask anyone who has seen the same Pirates refurbishement in DL and compare it to what we got at the MK. Even their refurbishings of late fall short of the same ones they are doing at the other parks. But as long as yoou continue to be happy with your experience, the local management will continue to justify deviating budgets to improve their team Disney digs as opposed to inventing in making the parks cutting edge, fresh and innovative.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Hmm, I really enjoyed Philharmagic on my most recent trip >> Glad you did wahooskipper as it is the best new attraction at any MK for years. A true classic.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I should have been clearer. I'm not suggesting that a fifth park will be built or should be built. It was purely an exercise in imagination -- what do you think a good theme for a fifth park would be? I don't mind people saying they don't think it would ever work... I just wanted to make it clear that I was not advocating for it. I don't think it would work either.
Originally Posted By avromark the avromark adventure, a theme park made just for me Well they could do like a theme park based on virtual reality, maybe a snazzy name like Disney Quest.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I just wanted to make it clear that I was not advocating for it.<< ..and why not? No one more than me would love to see a brand new experience built at WDW, but we have to be realistic in regards to the current economy, market conditions and the like.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<..and why not?>> I agree with those who say (including you) that Disney needs to take care of what it has first. As to whether or not a new park should EVER be built, I'm not sure one should. Although this may be changing now with EE; it seems that the AK took attendance from other Orlando parks more than it generated on its own. Pre-AK attendance at the WDW parks in 1997 totaled 39.2 million. 2005 attendance at the WDW parks totaled 42.8 million; an increase of only 3.6 million. Compared to that DCA looks like a smashing success. Pre-DCA Disneyland park attendance in 2000 was 13.9 million. 2005 attendance at the Disneyland parks totaled 20.3 million; an increase of 6.4 million. Source: <a href="http://www.scottware.com.au/theme/feature/crowds.htm" target="_blank">http://www.scottware.com.au/th eme/feature/crowds.htm</a>
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> the local management will continue to justify deviating budgets to improve their Team Disney digs << Yes there are budget cuts, and yes money that could be used as part of the guest experience is being diverted to the corporate profit ledger. But I hardly think much is going "to improve their Team Disney digs." I've visited many backstage offices in many WDW locations, and the decorating theme there tends to be "Spartan." (except for perhaps personal effects, of course) But then I haven't been to the Executive offices much. Maybe those are different.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> But as long as yoou continue to be happy with your experience << This comment touches on a key difference in the guest demographic, that affects many of our LP discussion threads. While I would agree with TDL's observations in most all points that he's made (with the exception of Tokyo Disney Sea, which I've not yet had the luck to be able to visit), I would point out that most guests who visit WDW and other Disney parks are less frequent visitors than we are. Folks with Annual Passes, Florida locals, and we Disney believers tend to be much more frequent visitors than the average guest. And we notice things differently than the average guest does. We are in the minority in terms of plain old attendance numbers. But I think we are in the majority of people who really, really care. And I wish our "votes" somehow counted more than the average guest who comes through the turnstile. I think that what we notice and argue for is an important component on what makes and would keep Disney a great location, not just a very good one. When everyone's vote counts the same, things tend to move more towards the collective. I believe instead that things should be lead with vision, and that the excellent should be our goal, not the average. We should truly aim for "exceeding guest expectations." But then, who's listening to this argument? Only us..... my opinion only counts as one vote.
