Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest.asp?I1=ID&I2=3198" target="_blank"><b>Latest: Jim Hill on Pleasure Island and Night Kingdom</b></a> Jim Hill's latest includes his analysis of why Pleasure Island has to closed and the latest rumors on the future of Night Kingdom - Walt Disney World's rumored niche park currently in development. <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Jimhillmediacom/~3/322962146/monday-mouse-watch-why-pleasure-island-has-to-close.aspx" target="_blank">Click here</a> for more.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Well, at least this time Jim got more right than wrong. But he's still spinning that 'Night Kingdom' will be built albeit in a new form and beyon 2012. I wouldn't count on it. But this way he can save some face (even if his story on the park was a huge factor behind Bob Iger deciding it wasn't as good an idea as Jay Rasulo would have him believe). Ah ... gotta love the way the Disney Internet World spins.
Originally Posted By kennect You know Spirit what I am beginning to wonder is this...Where does Bob Iger figure in to all of the park business that Disney does?
Originally Posted By Bob Paris Well, if the blustering Hill(billy) Jim(old WWF reference - lol)in any way caused the strange DNK to not be built then I think Iger should send ten Disney dollars to JHM as a grateful "thank you"! The semi-literate Hill might have just saved the company five hundred odd million dollars and a big red face.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA As for Pleasure Island's demise -- I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.
Originally Posted By dshyates One of the reason's my last 2 WDW visits were not as magical as previous trips was that DtD was SOOOO crowded that it was a miserale experience. All the restaurants had long waits including the Ghiridelli Shoppe. You couldn't even walk though the Marketplace area where the stage is and there wasn't anyone playing. And the westside was empty. DtD needs more restaurants. and I pointed out in the other thread the same thing Hill mentioned that PI acts as a barrier between the eastside and westside. That combined with the fact that DtD has become a hang out for local teens and have seen an increase in problems associated with that. I actually like the plan, but since DNK seems less likely I think it would be a good thing to keep the AC open atleast until the plans for DNK get rehashed.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed, I suppose my problem is not the closure of PI per se. It is the closure of the AC and CW. They could keep them both open with a cover charge and add more restaurants. As for clubs, I suppose there is still Boardwalk and the one at Coronado Springs? Difference is, the bus system would make it a nightmare for not staying in those localities.
Originally Posted By dshyates I wonder if with the closure of the PI dance clubs they will open more at the resorts? I could see a hip club at the contemporary. Sidebar, I would love to see one of the new Trader Vic's Mia Tia bars open at the Poly.
Originally Posted By X-san dsh, I'm not sure Disney really wants clubs. I remember being at the Boardwalk around 2am a couple of times, and it wasn't a pretty picture. If I were Disney management, I'd want to put a stop to that sort of stuff (as a regular person and NOT a hotel guest though, I think it's cool lol). Perhaps they want to distance themselves from that scene (it does, after all, attract locals who detract from the immersive experience to say the least)? I can't imagine they'd go with a club in the Contemporary, but you never know. I think the Adventurer's Club was fun and, for a bar, VERY Disney (that'd be a Guinness Book accomplishment right there!), but other than that...meh. Pleasure Island kinda sucked. Who wants to party "Disney style" anyway? If you want that, there are plenty of places to go. Disney just lammed it up, honestly. Inspector, I can't believe YOU wasted your time at Pleasure Island?? Didn't TDLFAN take you to any of the BETTER Orlando party zones????
