Originally Posted By Hista98 I don't see it working. There are so many problems i see with this system. I think it would be best if it was done like fantasmic where it's first come first served. I understand the need for a system like this because of the limited viewing area but to me the way to get showpasses are going to be so confusing I'm betting most guests won't even be aware of it. First of all a lot of guests won't know about showpass or where to get it and will show up at paradise park expecting to just walk in. I know some of you may say that lots of signs and stuff will help. But I've worked with disneyland guests before and most of them miss stuff like that all the time. Secondly it's a bad idea to use another rides fp for this. They should just build showpass machines at paradise park cause honestly once again even if theres signs that say WoC showpass by GRR guests will go there to get FPs for GRR not showpasses for WoC I just see this system creating headaces for both CMs and guests who will miss out on WoC due to there own stupidity. I know disney desings things like this with the mindset of guests easiley understanding what is going but they need to realise that guests who get stuff like this are in the minority of park guests.
Originally Posted By TP2000 They've gone back to calling it Fastpass apparently. Miceage has a big update today on how it's supposed to work logistically.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby I don't see it working well either - I'm sure they will implement it but most guests won't have a clue and it will be chaos. And I still don't understand the need for a "holding area" or "Fun Glow time" in HPB. There is an entire operating theme park - why do you need a holding area anywhere? No matter how many people they put in this holding area, there will be others riding Soarin' or TSMM who will walk right to Paradise Park when the time comes for the 2nd show. How are they gonna know they were supposed to be "held" in HPB?
Originally Posted By TP2000 Yeah, some of this crowd control stuff sounds bizarre. It's that kind of thing that has me wondering if I shouldn't just wait a while before trying to see World of Color. The opening weekend (and following weekdays when the cheap AP's get unblocked) will likely be a logistics nightmare. I may pass on that.
Originally Posted By TP2000 I should say though that these Dining Packages hold interest for me. I've generally given up on Disneyland Resort theme park restaurants because of their poor service and lackluster food, but I'd be willing to shell out 40 bucks for a gross dinner once if it got me a good spot for the show.
Originally Posted By mickeymorris1234 It surprised me when he said the area can now hold 4,000 people with 2,000 of those being the people for the dinner packages (Good thing I already got mine! WHOOT WHOOT!) And then 2,000 fastpass tickets and then they are done for Paradise Park. My guess it that TDA realized making people stand for an hour and a half would cause huge problems and allowed for sitting which cut down the amount of people in the area. That means the Parade route is going to be packed!!!!!! And by the sounds of things the Dinner Package people are going to get basically dead center (probably on purpose so AP holders have to spend money to get a good spot) I'm kinda interested in this part thing though. I might just go check it out. The last show is is probably going to be the best. At least half of the resort leaves by 10:00 and the second show isn't even going to be announced till right before 10:00 so it will just be AP holders and it sounds like the last one is nothing but a first come first serve. Overall I think the plan works for AP holders. However poor single day ticket holders I feel bad for. They are going to be so lost! They will be sitting in the park and suddenly get kicked out and then the people who paid money or those who waited all night to get a fastpass ticket are going to take their spot. (At least Disneyland won't be as crowded as a normal summer for a while)
Originally Posted By LuLu I'll have to read this, BUT I was told by the Disney Dining CM Sunday morning (he called ME) that the show viewing area is 9000 total with 500 of those being preferred diners. The reason he called is b/c they had overbooked the portion of the restaurant dedicated to WoC. So I'm guessing he knows the number of diners per show, but of course things may be changing on a daily basis...
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I was trying to suss out the "2,000 for dinner packages" that Al L. mentions. If there are two shows a night with dinner packages, and 2 restaurants doing it, that's 500 per show, which would jibe with what Lulu was told. But do those restaurants actually seat 500? Maybe they do, but that seems like a lot, and even if they do, doesn't that crowd out anyone who just wants to eat there as a normal diner?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Actually, now that I look again, if Lulu was told 500 places are for dinner packages, that sounds like a total number (i.e. for both restaurants). So either that cm got it wrong, or Al did. I guess. (???)
Originally Posted By Hista98 my guess would be al got it wrong. I don't like the idea of making a nighttime show so exclusive. it will turn off a lot of people to the show and they will go else where, which will be counter productive to the point of creating WoC in the first place.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "I should say though that these Dining Packages hold interest for me. I've generally given up on Disneyland Resort theme park restaurants because of their poor service and lackluster food, but I'd be willing to shell out 40 bucks for a gross dinner once if it got me a good spot for the show." This. I'd also be willing to pay forty bucks and have the food(gross or not, I'm not in any way a food snob - not saying you are TP, I just have a very forgiving pallette!)if it meant I did not have to be herded in and rub shoulders with the gross plebs. I would just consider WOC as a "forty dollar show with dinner". Plus since we would be coming from Australia and it's a special deal, we would have no problem with the extra cost. Personally I think the DLR should have more things like this to separate the daytrippers/holiday visitors from the AP rabble.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "my guess would be al got it wrong" Rare...but it has been known to happen.
Originally Posted By Terminus I think they should take care of the AP rabble that go often and spend money there! Let the daytrippers/holiday visitors wait like everyone else! Heh, sorry.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 If it makes you feel better, I'd be at the resort long enough that It'd make economic sense to buy an AP. But there's nothing "rabblish" about me. ; )
Originally Posted By LuLu Re amount of dining packages, I think they could seat 2 groups per table per show, so that might equal 2000 guests. But I had my reservation time changed by Disney Dining, so that other, non-WoC diners can be served at the restaurants at the same time as WoC diners. Not all the tables will get the preferred vouchers.
Originally Posted By LuLu >>My guess it that TDA realized making people stand for an hour and a half would cause huge problems and allowed for sitting which cut down the amount of people in the area.<< Mickeymorris, maybe you haven't heard that there won't be seating. The CM that called me made sure I understood that this had changed. Now it's called "preferred viewing." And I'm wondering if we get mixed in with the FP rabble who will be angling for good spots too
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Since Disney treats all guests "equal" I am enjoying thinking of the celebrities arriving for the special preview party in their limos to "stand" for the show! Oh dear think of all the people in wheelchairs and electric carts. How is that being handled? Think all the news helicopters will be hovering? ANd will they offer a Live Webcast? Where is Darkbeer? Anybody? Sorry just thinking out loud again.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Think all the news helicopters will be hovering? >>> The airspace above and around Disneyland (up to 3000 feet, up to 3 miles away) is designated "National Defense Airspace" and civilian use is prohibited, unless Disney requests a waiver for something they need. So I doubt there will be helicopters close enough and low enough to disturb the guests.
