Originally Posted By HokieSkipper So, from day 1 of the Fantasyland Expansion, I had incredible doubts about the notion that this would give kids "shorter wait times for their favorites", especially for the Meet and Greets, and how successful they would really be. Well, seems like my doubts were real. This is from Lee over at that Magical place: <<As far as ride capacity....as I said, Mermaid will help. The M&Gs....not at all. If 20% more guests decided for some reason to come into the MK to go to the M&Gs.....it would be a catastrophe. Like I stated in another thread, there are already huge capacity issues with those "attractions" without factoring in an attendance increase.(Which I still maintain will be small.) Lots of hand-wringing going on already about capacity back there. Potential nightmare.>>
Originally Posted By mousermerf So they build queues.. sadly they most likely wont be indoors like Epcot's Character Spot, which sees hour long waits on normal days.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^I realize. I'm just saying a long wait time completely destroys the whole point (and by point I mean the justification that was given for an expansion of mostly meet and greets) of the thing. That the little ones will have to wait less to meet the characters.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer He's perfectly right. This would work if there were a ton of rides to go with it. Good thing that there have been meetings and talks about fixing the problem, as I have heard.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper I hope they're talking about more than just the Pixie ride. Because it's gonna take a lot more than that. I think it's time to look to Adventure or Tomorrow.
Originally Posted By mousermerf The Pixie ride wasn't green lighted last I checked - it was just a concept for what is essentially a decent sized piece of land. Hence the unfinished models and minimal discussion of it.
Originally Posted By mousermerf And don't forget, the Pixie ride is Phase 2 - and we all know Phase 2 never actually happens.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer The best thing they could do would be to add in the Pixie Ride/Experience, add in a A Tic, another SMALL ORIGINAL Dark Ride, and THEN head to AdvL with a nice aesthetic and attractions refurb.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> The Pixie ride wasn't green lighted last I checked - it was just a concept for what is essentially a decent sized piece of land. Hence the unfinished models and minimal discussion of it.<<< Are you talking about the ride...or the Techy M/G?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<The best thing they could do would be to add in the Pixie Ride/Experience, add in a A Tic, another SMALL ORIGINAL Dark Ride, and THEN head to AdvL with a nice aesthetic and attractions refurb.>> I disagree. They need to ADD things in Aland and Tland. Not just refurbs. Balancing out the crowds is key.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Or refurb and add at the same time. That's the ultimate. Kinda like what they SHOULD do with FLE..
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^The only thing that needs a refurb is Tiki(unless blowing up the carpets is counted as a refurb). Jungle could use some touch ups, but nothing is in dire need. You can refurb while you add as well.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Aside from FLE, isn't the largest plot of Land that waste of space near the speedway and train station? And outside the train tracks all 3 lands have places to build something.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> ^^^The only thing that needs a refurb is Tiki(unless blowing up the carpets is counted as a refurb). Jungle could use some touch ups, but nothing is in dire need.<<< And the aestheics... >>> Aside from FLE, isn't the largest plot of Land that waste of space near the speedway and train station? And outside the train tracks all 3 lands have places to build something.<<< Nixing the Speedway for some FL Rides and TL Expansion would really bring meaning to WDW's slogan of "Where Dreams Come True". Hate that thing...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer If anything, I would want it to look like Disneyland's or for them just to extend the look of Caribbean Plaza into ALL of AdvL.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^It DID look a lot like DL's before the carpets. And it could easily look like that again. And extending Caribbean plaza wouldn't make sense at all for the rest of the attractions.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer That is true, I hadn't thought of that. And yes, KILL THE CARPETS.