Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest-ID-81598.asp" target="_blank"><b>Latest: Hong Kong Disneyland to Become first Disney Parks with Marvel Characters</b></a> <p>According to the Wall Street Journal, Hong Kong Financial Secretary John Tsang announces on Wednesday that Hong Kong Disneyland will add an area featuring "Marvel heroes" as a part of the resort's expansion program.</p>
Originally Posted By Megara Who cares about Marvel heroes. I certainly don't. I go to the Disney parks to see Disney.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt LOL Jim. What exactly is "Disney"? Half the popular stuff at the parks today was either created by someone else or co-opted by Disney through some kind of acquisition or business deal.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>What exactly is "Disney"? Half the popular stuff at the parks today was either created by someone else or co-opted by Disney through some kind of acquisition or business deal.<<< Exactly. It seems people are perfectly fine with Star Wars and Indiana Jones, but Marvel seems to bother so many. I'm not sure if a Disneyland park is the perfect place for Marl. In my opinion they fit better into a Studios park, since Disney will use the movies for attractions. HKDL doesn't have a Studios park, so I hope it will get built on the Tomorrowland site of the park. Is Marvel popular in China? I guess so, because otherwise Iron Man 3 wouldn't have been filmed over there and many chinese corporations are doing product placement in the movie.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I aren't fine with Indiana Jones or Star Wars being inside Disneyland, either. Those aren't/weren't Disney movies and we believe only Disney movies should be represented inside Disneyland. (Not that the attractions, themselves, aren't good.) But if they keep adding so many attractions to the park that are based on non-Disney movies there's no point in calling the place Disneyland any more. The original brand has lost its way and become a hodge-podge of many different studio's themes. ORWEN: This is why Disney just isn't Disney anymore. Some may not care but we do.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt If Walt Disney had created Marvel's comic book characters you can be sure that there would have been a land created for them at Disneyland, most likely in the vacant zone that existed in 1955 between Fantasyland and Tomorrowland. From a branding standpoint I understand why people are having a hard time associating Disney with Marvel's famous superheros, but really it isn't much of a stretch.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<Is Marvel popular in China? I guess so, because otherwise Iron Man 3 wouldn't have been filmed over there and many chinese corporations are doing product placement in the movie.>> Movies are not filmed where the subject matter is popular, they are filmed where it is financially advantageous. Iron Man 3 was filmed primarily in North Carolina and Florida. One week of filming was done in China (partially to satisfy requirements for the movie to get a decent release in China - long story). Additional filming was done in India and (of course) Los Angeles.
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ Disney brought in a Beijing movie investor called DMG as co-financier and co-producer - so it is more than just filming in PRC to get tax breaks.
Originally Posted By Megara I guess people have a strong opinion on marvel because they are animated. Indy and Star Wars are not.
Originally Posted By Megara I guess people have a strong opinion on marvel because they are animated. Indy and Star Wars are not.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think a lot of people are worried about how big of an impact they will have on the parks. When Star Tours and the various Indiana Jones attractions were announced, they were single attractions in a bigger theme park. Disney had owned Marvel for several years, and seems very intent on pushing it, making people think that they'll want a much larger area of a park for it. Just just a lot of unknowns about Marvel, and that's what seems to scare people. My guess is that once they've announced solid plans somewhere, and people see how broad (or not) of a plan it is, it will calm a lot of people down. Personally, I have trouble seeing it fit into a DL-style park because it takes place in a contemporary era, with real-world issues (with the excetion of Captain America). Everything else in the DL-style parks is set in a different era, either the past (Main Street, Frontierland, New Orleans Square, parts of Fantasyland), future (Tomorrowland), or somewhere that's vague enough that you really can't tell (Adventureland, Critter Country, Toontown, parts of Fantasyland). It's that whole "here you enter the world of yesterday, tomorrow, and fantasy" thing that written over the tunnel by the main entrance. To me, Marvel characters don't really fit any of those 3 categories. Yes, they have fantasy-esque powers, but it's gounded in a very real setting. This isn't to say that it won't fit in one of the other parks (since they have more contemporary themes), but it just seems like an odd fit for me. But so does the Toy Story area, so what do I know?
Originally Posted By dagobert ^^I'm really glad that in Paris TSPL got built in WDSP instead of DLP. Marvel is perfect for a Studios park, but not so much for a Magic Kingdom. Since HKDL doesn't feature Star Tours, they should think about adding the Star Wars Land, which is rumoured for DLP, to HKDL. It could open with the new movies in 2015. ED SCA CEO Philippe Gas mentioned at the sharholders meeting, that after Ratatouille WDSP gets a non-Pixar ride. Maybe HKDL and WDSP will both get the same Marvel land?
Originally Posted By Manfried There are some Marvel characters that would be terrific for inclusion in any Disney theme park. You've got to look beyond Spiderman, Fantastic Four and the Avengers.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I guess people have a strong opinion on marvel because they are animated. Indy and Star Wars are not." I tend to think it's because of the internet. When those attractions opened I'm sure a lot of fans weren't happy but they didn't have forums like this one where they could voice their opinion.
