Originally Posted By Darkbeer Disneyland increased the price of AP's today... The Southern California Select AP went from $144 to $169 The "regular" Southern California AP went from $194 to $219 Deluxe AP's went from $289 to $299 Premium AP's went from $429 to $439
Originally Posted By Shiva LOL, it figures, We puposely let our PAP's expire in Dec '08 and renewed them in Feb '09 just to get the $800.00+ cost for 2 away from Dec. (our anniversary and Christmas.) Would have saved $10.00 each if we had left them alone and renewed last month. All in all, the increase seems pretty nominal. Thanks for the update Darkbeer.
Originally Posted By tashajilek Why even bother over $10? its also funny that they just increased them and now another increase.
Originally Posted By ecdc That is so insanely CHEAP! Man, I love the parks, but as an out-of-towner, it makes it hard for me to want to go knowing the sidewalks will just be packed with APs. It's a real shame.
Originally Posted By tashajilek Well maybe the $10 will break some peoples budget LOL. I know what you mean with the crowds im a out of towner and i planned a trip for feb 5-10 and just found out its going to be busy yet again. Cant seem to catch a break anymore it seems.
Originally Posted By ecdc It was really weird that first week of December. The lines actually weren't that bad. Waits were reasonable. I don't expect the parks to be empty when I'm there and to just walk up to any ride. I know Disney is a business and the more people they pack in, the more money they make. But even though the lines were reasonable, the park was still packed. It was bizarre. You'd think there'd be a correlation between line waits and sidewalk crowds. Not anymore. Look, I know most LPers are probably APs. I've got nothing against APs, per se. If I lived in SoCal I'd probably own one myself. But there's a trade off; it makes an out-of-towner like me less willing to spend a couple of grand for a vacation there knowing how busy it'll most likely be, thanks to locals cramming in just to go to lunch or see the latest change.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>But even though the lines were reasonable, the park was still packed. It was bizarre. You'd think there'd be a correlation between line waits and sidewalk crowds. Not anymore.<< I noticed the same thing (as we missed each other by just a couple of days). Packed park, but ride lines weren't bad at all. Lots of people wandering around. We didn't have any trouble getting a table, even on the weekends, as people were mostly camping out for Candlelight Processional or fireworks or what-have-you. Main Street was a log jam most of the time.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Have they given any reason for increasing prices? They just increased them (by a bigger ammount than usual, as I recall) in September, so it seems strange that they are increasing them again right now. If the problem is that they currently have too many APs in the parks, and they're trying to reduce the number some, maybe they should get rid of the monthly payments. The numbers never seemed unreasonable before they added that option...
Originally Posted By tashajilek "But there's a trade off; it makes an out-of-towner like me less willing to spend a couple of grand for a vacation there knowing how busy it'll most likely be, thanks to locals cramming in just to go to lunch or see the latest change." I understand where you are coming from with having to spend thousands for a vacation and not be able to enjoy yourself as much as you should. I have experienced locals talking on rides, treating me like i was stupid for not knowing where the line began amoung other things which did get me peed off at times. I actually do have a Deluxe Ap but will only be going to the park maybe 2 more times before it expires in october. Look at it this way that we can appreciate the park and not take it for granted. For February i have tried to plan a trip where it would be less crowded and then rivers of america are drained, matterhorn will be closed and no fantasmic. So almost damned if you do or damned if you dont. I really dont know when a good time to go is i pretty much give up on guessing, i just still try and have a good time as much as i can.
Originally Posted By Westsider After getting killed over and over in 2009 on days when AP's weren't blocked out, this is the first bit of good news of 2010! But they need to jack up the prices again in March just before World of Color opens, and then do it again in September before HalloweenTime and Christmas starts again. If they do that, then maybe by 2011 we'll have a more manageable AP base to work with and play host to.
Originally Posted By believe >>>> Have they given any reason for increasing prices? They just increased them (by a bigger ammount than usual, as I recall) <<<< Now that people can afford them because of the monthly payments (hey, only $20 a month!) They can jack up the prices even more (it's ONLY $1 a month more) By the way, if you're not an APer, visit on Saturdays when it's usually not crowded.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL >>>If they do that, then maybe by 2011 we'll have a more manageable AP base to work with and play host to.<<< As long as they keep the payment plan for all AP's, I would expect the AP base to continue to grow through these price increases. Disney has made it all just too easy for the masses to continue with Annual Passes.
Originally Posted By believe If people are still willing to pay, then they SHOULD increase prices. Supply and demand. If they don't increase prices, DL will be even more busier. Just wondering, if it's so busy, why do they still have the 2fer promotion?
Originally Posted By jmuboy I think Westsider may be right. We have seen 2 increases about 4 months apart. So maybe we are going to have a Spring and Fall increase during 2010 in an effort to get the prices up a little to DECREASE overall passholder numbers. That way it's not a sudden $50 or $75 all at once increase on the lower tier passes. I would also just get rid of the lower tier select pass as well if that is DL's ultimate goal.
Originally Posted By Marlin Perkins I live out of town and may only go to DL once during the year. We buy one Premium AP and regular passes for the rest of the family. Since we visit for several days, it still gives us a good discount on hotel, food, and silly hats. A zoo near my home charges over $100 for an AP--and they don't even have elephants! So, for SoCal passholders, I think they're still getting a rip-roaring good deal.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "I go on Saturdays " I go on Saturdays too, since that's about the only time I can actually make it down there. "...I would expect the AP base to continue to grow through these price increases." I'm not sure if I would. I have several friends who currently have APs that are about to expire, and they're all very seriously considering not renewing. Some are more busy than last year, but many just don't think it's worth it any more. If my pass had a spring renewal time, I don't know if I'd be renewing either. There are a lot of things to consider, and with my schedule (and not knowing where I'm going to be in the fall), I just don't know if it would be worth it for me. I wouldn't be too surprised if there were others out there, like my friends, who always wanted an AP, but after having one for a year see that it just isn't what they had expected.
Originally Posted By MomluvsDisney I have an PAP and I love going whenever I want, which is why I pay more for the pass. I do think that the state of things getting better is a bit illusionary. And I would not be surprised if DL sees it this way too. Does anyone know if they are offering the payment plans this year? Knowing what is going on with that might help shape this subject a bit more~
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan So maybe we are going to have a Spring and Fall increase during 2010 in an effort to get the prices up a little to DECREASE overall passholder numbers.<< For several years now I keep reading people online saying that Disney is going to reduce the number of APs. And year after year, I see nothing but evidence to the contrary. Payment plans, heavy promotion of APs. I don't believe there is any interest among Disney execs to lower the number of AP holders a bit. The price increase are simply a matter of supply and demand at work. Raising the prices a few bucks on a regular basis hasn't hurt AP sales at all, so the prices keep going up. Believing that the reason they are raising the prices is to cut down on the numbers is like believing they raise soda prices because they don't really want to sell so much Coca-Cola.
Originally Posted By MomluvsDisney "Believing that the reason they are raising the prices is to cut down on the numbers is like believing they raise soda prices because they don't really want to sell so much Coca-Cola." LOL..oh I like that one!!
