Originally Posted By Hista98 Two of disney's biggest mechanical nightmare rides are being rebuilt in the same land? Both Radiator Springs Racers, which is like test track and the Tire ride (Fying saucers) are making comebacks. This has me a little skeptical becuase of how much headaches these rides first caused, and I've heared that they will be modernised with todays technology, but heres a question. If there is new technology for test track and RSR why not just install it at test track now? IDK but i think these rides may have more down time during the first summer then run time and possibly for years after that.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Test Track operates fairly well now. Even in the early aughts ('02-03) it had serious downtime issues, but upgrades made to the system since then have made them very minimal. It's pretty reliable at this point. They still don't turn it off and just keep cycling it all night during the holidays though, just in case. It can run in light rain, btw, just not lightning, and depending on the rain intensity they may shut it down because it becomes physically painful to the riders.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "This has me a little skeptical becuase of how much headaches these rides first caused, and I've heared that they will be modernised with todays technology" Not sure what you are you worried about. Hasn't this exact same technology been used on Journey to The Center of The Earth at TDS for almost 10 years now without any problems?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Journey also had some serious issues when it opened. It has more frequent closures for general maintenence than any other TDR attraction, and is apparently quite expensive to run. However, it's also one of the best attractions on the planet, and I don't even speak Japanese to understand what the heck is going on! If the attraction is done well enough, it more than justifies the cost of the ride system, which is part of the reason that Rocket Rods failed on many levels.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Journey also had some serious issues when it opened. ... and is apparently quite expensive to run. >>> That's my understanding as well. It's going to be closed for 2.5 months starting in just a couple of weeks, which I think is much longer than the typical annual refurb. It would not surprise me if they are going to deploy some new technology to reduce the ongoing maintenance costs that the attraction has. If so, this will mean that the new stuff will be in service at TDS at least for 1.5 years prior to RSR opening.
Originally Posted By hbquikcomjamesl RSR: I certainly HOPE it's based on Test Track. Think about it: it could have been based on Rocket Rods! "The tire ride": My understanding is that the original Flying Saucers depended on military surplus valves that turned out to be obsolete missile parts, and by the time they'd started failing, they'd already exceeded their design life hundreds of times over. I'm told that at the time, Disney didn't have the money to re-engineer the attraction (remember, this was back when most of the Main Street storefronts had non-Disney tenants, and attractions without corporate sponsorship were far less common than they are today). We learn from our mistakes, and presumably, "the tire ride" won't depend on something designed to only survive a short period of actual use.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I don't know if it was just that. Bob Gurr had an LP article once in which he talked about the problem with the original saucers and why they could be made to work much better today.
Originally Posted By socalkdg The tire ride is available at most John's Incredible Pizza Company's. Here is an image of them <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/doggybag/273124529/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/d...3124529/</a> Both my daughter and wife enjoy them much more than your standard bumper car ride.
Originally Posted By SafariRob That's what we're getting? A standard bumper car ride that you can find at any JIPC? I hope they do a better job than that.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Even if it ends up being the bumper cars (which I doubt it will be, since there have been several reports confirming the Flying Saucer technology, and it would be tough to have the big electric floor with no roof), that's the way to do it. Unlike the Tuck and Roll ones, the round cars are really fun. I still want hover tires, but the round bumper cars are darn fun too!
Originally Posted By socalkdg Those pictured run on air. They are much more fun then the standard bumper car. This new ride is a "C" ticket ride. I'd expect long lines once its done.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Didn't someone say that Disney applied for a patent for this technology. I wonder what sets it apart from John's Incredible Pizza Company's ride?
Originally Posted By SafariRob >>I wonder what sets it apart from John's Incredible Pizza Company's ride?<< Outside of theming, probably not much. I hope I am wrong. >>I'd expect long lines once its done.<< Yes, very long lines. Do any of the videos, preview-center pictures or blueprints give any indication what the PPH capacity will be?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Are you sure that those are hover craft type bumper cars? They sure don't look like it in any of the pictures. Where does the air come from... underneath the cars?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Yes, I've seen them. I'm asking about the ones at John's Incredible Pizza Company.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<My understanding is that the original Flying Saucers depended on military surplus valves that turned out to be obsolete missile parts, and by the time they'd started failing>> It wasn't because of the valves failing because they were worn out. IIRC, it had to do with a saucer being bounced over a set of valves, causing them to stay open. When that happened, the pressure underneath the rink would go to near zero, and all the saucers would come "crashing" down. The ride wouldn't be able to come back online until they could re-pressurize the rink.
Originally Posted By socalkdg <<<<Yes, I've seen them. I'm asking about the ones at John's Incredible Pizza Company.>>>> I'm pretty sure. I could feel air coming up from the floor.
