Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 'Tis me, the Spirit of fine dining who absolutely loves the California Grill, which has easily been the most consistently excellent dining location at WDW since its 1995 opening. That said, just a few things to ponder over with the staff. Why have a dress code when you don't enforce it at all? Some of us believe that flip-flops, tees and dirty sneakers just don't mesh with fine dining. Yet, it appears as though in your never-ending quest to not turn away a penny, you can dress like you would to go to Denny's on 192 and still get shown to the elevator to take you up top. You and the staff might want to actually enforce that code. Oh, and while the service continues to be good, I have noticed some servers seem a little less inclined to go the extra inch when the DDP gives them 18% guaranteed no matter what level of service they provide. Small issues, sure. But as a Grill lover ... well, I'd like to make sure it continues racking up those awards all over the walls.
Originally Posted By MPierce Another point that I have to agree with you on Spirit. Sometimes casual dining can be taken to the extreme. While I am certainly not a fashion expert, if you pay premium prices you should receive premium service in an atmosphere that would justify the price range. That experience would also be reflected in how other patrons of the establishment were allowed to dress.
Originally Posted By figment1986 <<Some of us believe that flip-flops, tees and dirty sneakers just don't mesh with fine dining. Yet, it appears as though in your never-ending quest to not turn away a penny, you can dress like you would to go to Denny's on 192 and still get shown to the elevator to take you up top.>> If the resturant has a dress code then they should post it, notify the guest beforehand when they make the reservations, and enforce it. I think for california grill the minimum dress code could be: a clean polo shirt, clean khaki pants, and clean sneakers or business shoes. No jeans, No t-shirts, and No Flip flops / crocks should be allowed.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN While I agree the dress code should be enforced, I think Disney fails miserable enforcing codes, not just in restaurants but ALL OVER the property. The Cast Members of today do not give a flying tamale and won't go the extra mile to enforce anything... from suggestive or innapropriate dress wear in the parks, to guests engaging in unsafe behavior, to allowing home brought food into the parks and worst! ..in the queues, where no Custodial ever seems to dares to go in anymore. Then again... enforcing the dress code would mean, 67.2% of today's WDW guests would not be allowed to come near Florida. I would like that.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome I'd like to see the ban on Heely's enforced (or however you spell it!) Denise
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I want the Fc Uk tees totally banned as well... along with trailers in the parking lots.
Originally Posted By irishfan >>I want the Fc Uk tees totally banned as well.<< Couldnt' agree more, thankfully French Connection have realised that that "gimmick' had a sell by date and no longer do it.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN G-Fan and I were TOTALLY SHOCKED while at TDL last week on vacation as we saw one japanese male wearing a shirt with a phraze that included the real F word printed on the back of it. It was disappointing because I find it hard to believe that the japanese would be clueless to words like that in a family park like TDL. So TDL can be just as guilty in some rare cases.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome What does TDL do if someone complains about a t-shirt like that in the park (if anything?)
Originally Posted By magnet Well, let's just put it this way... TDL CMs escort you to the Haunted Mansion, where you're placed on a very "special" doombuggy. You might have seen it -- it's stained red in places. Well, by the time the buggy returns to the loading queue...the occupant has mysteriously vanished. Riders often claim they can hear blood-curdling screams coming up from beneath the main floor in the mansion. Perhaps there's some truth to those claims.... Muhahahahahaha! OK, that's my fictional Halloween version of what happens
Originally Posted By cmash95 I still remember the days when you wouldn't think of going to WDW or DL in clothes with "inappropriate" language. It wasn't the park that necessarily enforced it, it was the families themselves because it was considered an embarrassment to wear such things. standards need to be raised all over the parks. not only in clothing allowed but also behavior allowed. the bar needs to be raised higher than what it currently is. funny thing about expectations, you expect more from your CM's and reward the behavior and you will get top notch work. and I don't necessarily mean rewarding them with money either.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> you expect more from your CM's and reward the behavior and you will get top notch work. and I don't necessarily mean rewarding them with money either. << I'm trying to figure out what else you'd reward them with! Though when I worked at DRC, chocolate always worked pretty well. Seriously, I think CM's just don't want to get into a confrontation, and I can understand that. But maybe managers need to be called for certain situations.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >>TDL CMs escort you to the Haunted Mansion, where you're placed on a very "special" doombuggy. You might have seen it -- it's stained red in places. Well, by the time the buggy returns to the loading queue...the occupant has mysteriously vanished.<< I'll make sure not to wear an F-word t-shirt whenever I go! (Like I have any!) Denise
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>What does TDL do if someone complains about a t-shirt like that in the park (if anything?)<< I honestly do not know, but at TDR, CMs are rather quick to lay down the law when guests do brake posted rules. I would assume if a japanese guest was offended by that type of tee shirt, mayeb security would alert the offending guest about it or request to change it... but I am only taking a guess here. >>Seriously, I think CM's just don't want to get into a confrontation, and I can understand that.<< That is exactly the problem WDW has. NO one dares to remind the guests who is actually in control of the situation. So why bother having rules of conduct and dress at all? >>But maybe managers need to be called for certain situations.<< The managers are the ones I blame for the lack of control and the outrageous things that go on in the parks, because they are the ones who are quick to remind CMs to NOT bother guests when they are out of line or non-compliance.
Originally Posted By danyoung >I think for california grill the minimum dress code could be: a clean polo shirt, clean khaki pants, and clean sneakers or business shoes. No jeans, No t-shirts, and No Flip flops / crocks should be allowed.< I'd slacken that just a bit and say that NICE shorts would be OK - no cutoffs. And nice, non-ripped jeans should be OK in a theme park restaurant, even such a nice one as CG. But I do agree that an enforced dress code would improve the vibe of the place. >The Cast Members of today do not give a flying tamale and won't go the extra mile to enforce anything... < Rather than putting the blame on CMs, I'd put it on management and training. It doesn't seem too important to the company to enforce the codes, so the CMs are just going along with the trend. I'm a pretty casual guy, and I don't want to go back to the standards of the 60's. But there are some shirts that shouldn't be allowed, and some women (and even men sometimes) that are so tightly packed into inappropriate wear that they should be busted out of the parks!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Don't tell him that. If he goes off the meds he gets incontinent and starts goING everywhere! Oh, and I recall seeing someone at DLP in line for Buzz Lightyear with a shirt with the 'F word' on it and no one said or did anything. Now, to get back ontrack, it's not that bad at the California Grill. But I did see more folks wearing clothes that explicitly go against the dress code than I ever have before. I'm sorry, but some places you should have to dress for.
Originally Posted By danyoung How could I survive without my main medication - vodka? And I did see TDLFAN's post, but I knew I could say the same thing far more eloquently!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Be glad it wasn't a FAT joke...since I was in a good mood, and decided to spare you this one time.
