Originally Posted By BriGuy85 I found a video of the new THE BLUE NOTE MYSTERY show at the Futuroscope park in Europe. I thought it looks amazing and was thinking some of the technology in this show might go into World of Color. If not, it's still worth looking at <a href="http://uk.futuroscope.com/evening-show-blue-note-mystery.php" target="_blank">http://uk.futuroscope.com/even...tery.php</a>
Originally Posted By Bob Paris Very nice! I especially liked the bit where the real human actor is floating next to the animated character. It is exciting to think WoC may be even better than this! Whoda thunk something at DCA may actually be AWESOME?!?!
Originally Posted By u k fan I've just ordered a brochure for Futuroscope. It's a bit of a drive, but it looks pretty cool!!!
Originally Posted By leemac The Futuroscope show was directed by Yves Pepin - who directed the Millennium fireworks show at the Tour Effiel and Tokyo DisneySea's BraviSEAmo! He is a very visual guy although his storytelling is a weak point. The technology used in WoC is entirely new and proprietary to Disney.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I think we are spoiled by Tinkerbell but the water/laser effects were amazing and I liked the music. Especially love the tiny lights sparkling on the water. Makes me miss Luminaria.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I thought the sparkling lights were pretty cool too. They do something similar to that in Illuminations at Epcot, but I think they are actually fireworks that are launched out across the lake, and they just sink to the bottom when they're done. Does anybody know where the projectors for the screens will be? It seems that every time Disney has used a mist screen (Fantasmic!, rats in Indy, Davy Jones in POTC) they use rear projection, but I don't know if there's a place in DCA far enough behind the screens to actually make the image cover them. They could to the projections from the front, but that might also have some issues. I read a couple years ago that they tested the F! water screens on the island, the folks on shore thought it was amazing, while the folks on the island didn't think it was worthwile. From the island, the image was very dark and terribly out of focus, but from the other side, it was bright and clear. I wouldn't be surprised if they found a way around that in the last 15+ years, but it would be tough to do.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt What is this Futurescope park? It looks amazing. I have to check this place out the next time I'm in France.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig re: #6 above: With the proper lenses, a projector can spread out a wide image without needing to be too far back from the image surface (screen or water screen, in this case). So distance is not a critical factor. I think the projectors are going to be on the viewing side of the mist screens, maybe in those big box-like structures that they are building in the bay. So yeah, maybe they figured out how to make the projections look good from the front side.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Futuroscope is unique, and yet also VERY European in its tone and presentation. It's a theme park dedicated to film and multi-media presentations, very heavy on 3-D shows and several IMAX theaters, and entirely devoid of roller coasters and only a couple of traditional theme park rides. It opened in the late 80's and has grown a lot since then, and while reasonably popular, it gets less than 2 Million visitors per year. Folks bashed DCA on opening for being too heavy on movies. Can you imagine an entire theme park built around movie attractions? That's Futuroscope. A one day adult ticket is 35 Euros, which is about 45 Dollars at current exchange rates.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Folks bashed DCA on opening for being too heavy on movies. Can you imagine an entire theme park built around movie attractions? That's Futuroscope." I suppose that I wouldn't have a problem with that knowing it from the start. With Disney you tend to expect something more, which explains why DCA was such a disappointment for some folks. It also didn't help to have DL park within walking distance.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig ^^^Yeah. Disney parks are full of RIDES. Outside of the coaster and the off shelf stuff at Paradise Pier, there were only 3 "rides" on opening day, and one of those was Soarin', which really isn't a ride on a track in the traditional sense, anyway. There wasn't even one single outdoor "transportation" type of ride (train, trolley, cars, boats, nuthin!), therefore absolutely NO kinetic effect from anything outside of Paradise Pier. Unless you were looking at kids screaming on unadorned big iron thrill rides, or glimpses of GRR which was a wet version of a thrill ride, DCA looked static, static, static on opening day, and it still does. Everything else was a go-in-a-building-and-sit-down-and-watch-a-movie type of attraction. DCA was FILLED with movies, and DEVOID of much else that appealed to anyone who didn't really care for thrill type attractions. And the fact that people were disappointed by that helped to perpetuate the overall "static" appearance of the exterior portions of the park, because those areas sure weren't even filled with the kinetic movement of "guests".
Originally Posted By Anatole69 ^^ Do guests running for the exit out of boredom count as a kinetic experience? Yes, it's a cheap shot and I admit it. haha. - Anatole
Originally Posted By ctxrover1 "Do guests running for the exit out of boredom count as a kinetic experience?" Nice. Also, the post-Aladdin bathroom rush.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Disneygeek has an DLR update that show tracks being installed in Paradise Lagoon for WOC. Anyone have any idea what these are for? <a href="http://www.disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_update.php?page_id=6&update_dir=2009_05_29" target="_blank">http://www.disneygeek.com/upda...09_05_29</a>
Originally Posted By SuperDry Those don't look like tracks, but guideways for things like cables or flexible pipes. Look at the two guys with hardhats near the middle of the second picture, then to the right of them. You can see a "Y" intersection, and above that, an abrupt angle. Neither of these look like things that a "track" that would support some sort moving object rolling above it would use. Instead, what they look like to me is guideways. A similar concept is used in datacenters to organize all of the cables. Perhaps they will install the nozzles and lights throughout the lagoon, but the nozzles will just have flexible hoses that run back to a central valve unit rather than individual valves near the heads. If that's true, considering the number of nozzles and lights that would be needed for the show as it's been described, it would not surprise me to find that some sort of fancy cable/hoze management system was needed.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig "Guideways" as theorized in post #16 is exactly what they are. In datacenters and similar sverver room or rendering farm types of installations, the actual term for them is "cable trays". I've worked with them in lots of microwave communications types of facilities I've been involved with. But these things for WOC are HUGE... but not surprising considering how many fountains and jets there are. Plus, there is going to be a tremendous amount of underwater lighting, I suspect. So not only will there be pipes arrayed on all of these runs, but also underwater cables. Plus, don't forget all the compressed air lines... tons of them. Fountain jets shoot up so high via compressed air pushing the column of water up, not just because of basic water pressure in the pipes alone. Those compressed air lines will run along these structures as well. It's prudent to have all of this infrastructure carefully and cleanly laid out in an organized manner. No doubt they'll have very detailed CAD files/drawings that identify and accurately locate each and every pipe and cable to facilitate maintenance. The more I see what's going on under the surface of the water, the more I'm convinced that what happens above the surface of the water is going to turn out AMAZING. Fantasmic aside (which is still awesome), it's great to see Disney FINALLY installing what looks to be a WORLD CLASS state of the art fountain show in Anaheim.
