Originally Posted By Doobie This topic is for discussion of the December 17 article: Toon Talk: Walt Disney Treasures - The Complete Pluto - Volume 1 at <a href="News-ID280350.asp" target="_blank">http://LaughingPlace.com/News-ID280350.asp</a>.
Originally Posted By CuriosWolfSo I haven't seen the DVDs yet, but I'm glad they finally gave Pluto his own Treasures set. Though I have to wonder that if this is Vol. 1, how they are going fill out Vol. 2 since in the later years, Pluto appeared more in the Mickey Mouse cartoons than his own series. In fact, Pluto's last theatrical appearance was with Mickey in "The Simple Things" a 1953 Mickey Mouse cartoon and didn't return until "The Prince and the Pauper" in 1990! (I never understood why he was passed over for "Mickey's Christmas Carol" in 1983!)
Originally Posted By narkspud Just an observation: According to my eyeballs, both the Disney and Warner Bros. sets could stand to back off a bit on the quantity per disc. The encoding artifacts are a bit much.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>The encoding artifacts are a bit much.<< Do you have an English to 2ooney dictionary that could explain what you mean, Narkspud?
Originally Posted By narkspud Artifacts: Flaws in the picture caused by trying to cram too much video into the limited space on a DVD. It looks like fuzz around outlines, blockiness in fast-moving or "busy" scenes, or general splotchiness and noise in brightly colored areas. It can also happen with poopy source material, or a DVD authoring guy who doesn't know what he's doing, but in this case it's a pure instance of quantity over quality. Splotchiness and noise are the biggest flaws on the cartoon collections. Most folks chalked it up to the condition of the film, but a lot of what you see on those discs is actually a too-low bitrate. Of course, compared with the ghastly transfers that Warner had been using before, just about anything looks better. I'm *very* persnickety about these things, though---I can't even stand to watch DirectTV or digital cable, which have far worse artifact problems than any of the DVDs we're discussing. YMMV.
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs I'd love to see another DL USA disc... it could have Disneyland Showtime, Gala Day at DL, POTC & TL and another DL program from the 60s.
Originally Posted By CuriosWolfSo Well, 5BR, The Mickey Mouse Club DVD has the Mouseketeers at Disneyland. (I haven't seen the DVD yet because I just got it for Christmas)
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs I'm actually bummed that the back cover art of the tin is now a (loose) piece of paper. Oh well... Maybe they'll change it for the next waves.
Originally Posted By -em Okay I love the DVDs but I HATE the white cases... 11 Black and 3 White I dont keep them in their tins so its soo bothersome (yes I'm planning to switch them all to black) -em
Originally Posted By CuriosWolfSo >>I'm actually bummed that the back cover art of the tin is now a (loose) piece of paper. Oh well... Maybe they'll change it for the next waves.<< Don't count on it, 5BR...
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs Oh, all these changes to the tins (and apparently the cases, according to em) are going to mess up the look, lol! I should have known better... Disney could never maintain continuity with the videos and DVDs for their animated movie collection titles...
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I have a question about this set. They included a couple of the Mickey Mouse shorts on the set because they featured Pluto, but why didn't they include "Mother Pluto" too? I know it was a "Silly Symphony", but it was a solo short and would have made perfect sense here. Especially if they included "The Chain Gang"... Another issue... I noticed for the first time that a Pluto bit was completely reused. The flypaper scene from "Playful Pluto" is redone shot for shot in "Beach Picnic" with Donald Duck. The only difference is that it's in color and there are more Pluto sound effects. Other than "Orphan's Benefit" I didn't know they reused stuff on the older shorts like this. Does anybody else have examples?
Originally Posted By ToonKirby The non "Pluto" shorts included seem to have been added arbitrarily, with the only logic behind being that they were the shorts excerpted in the Disneyland episode "A Story of Dogs" included in the Bonus Features. And just in case you may not be aware of it, "Mother Pluto" was included in the "Silly Symphonies" Walt Disney Treasure DVD.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Thanks, that I did know, but thought it would still have been a nice idea to add it to the set. I hadn't noticed that the non-Pluto cartoons that were added were the ones excerpted on the Disneyland episode though.
