Originally Posted By Westsider Due to higher attendance than forcast, Disneyland has had its closing time extended until Midnight on Thursday, 10/15. It's busy in the park today, but will get much busier tonight when the AP's arrive after work and school. This weekend is projected to be extremely busy again, with all sattelite parking lots open and possible main entrance closures in the evenings.
Originally Posted By SleepingBeauty82 Ironically, about two minutes ago I got an email from a friend asking me if I wanted tot go the the park later with her this afternoon. Haha. Then I come and read this. *sigh* She hasn't seen Ghost Galaxy yet and she's afraid she's gonna miss it so I might just suck it up...
Originally Posted By Westsider Disneyland is the Great Southern California Community Center now, available to all for just pennies per day with an E-Z automatic monthly payment option! What else are you going to do?!? Read a book? Go for a bike ride? Take a stroll on the beach? Browse the mall? Play Scrabble? Don't be silly! Get yourself to Disneyland tonight, just to stop by for an hour or two! ;-)
Originally Posted By crazycroc I know that I will not be renewing my families AP's untii they get a better handle on the crowds. Rather than the AP's to blame, shouldn't we be blaming DCA for adding days to people's trips that they aren't spending there?
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Rather than the AP's to blame, shouldn't we be blaming DCA for adding days to people's trips that they aren't spending there?" You forgot the winky emoticon.
Originally Posted By SleepingBeauty82 Thanks for the suggestions, Westsider. I'm sure you were doing something just as exhilarating while I was riding on Space Mountain. I've also been unemployed for a while and trust me, I've managed to find plenty of ways to entertain myself that don't involve Disneyland. By the way, next time try posting when you have something meaningful to say and don't just feel like being sarcastic and jerky. Thanks.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones These days the entrance fee to Disneyland is just a cover charge. Pretty soon there will be a two churro minimum.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Lol SpokkerJones - it does feel that way, unless you travel a distance.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris SB - try not to take it personally. I am sure DB was just referring to the rude APers. From what I have seen of your posting you seem very nice. In other words, I am sure you would not be one of those obnoxious APers who rush to City Hall to complain because there was litter in the Peter Pan queue or because you timed the last Jungle Cruise you went on and it was 8 seconds quicker than your previous ride.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Disneyland is the Great Southern California Community Center now, available to all for just pennies per day with an E-Z automatic monthly payment option!*** And who's fault is THAT? **cough*DisCo*cough** Don't blame the patrons for showing up, they have every right to.
Originally Posted By danyoung Westsider is a long time cast memeber, and he gets an extra dose of tolerance,at least from me. But I have to say that over the past year or so his postings have been getting gradually more negative. So, DL finally getting to you, WS?
Originally Posted By Marlin Perkins AP's are were a great idea. I don't even live near DL and it was just as cheap to buy an AP as it would have been to pay for several days at the park on my last visit. The crowds do make DL rather unenjoyable at times. Especially when it turns into a river of humanity--where you become part of the mass moving along and are unable to stop and enjoy the sights. I wasn't fond of the old ticket book days, but I think they should return to that system. Only this time, they could issue ID cards with a bar code on it where you can just scan it before entering a ride. You could wear it on a lanyard around your neck! Just think of the lanyard sales! It might cut down on the wait times for rides as well. Just ol' Marlin over here thinkin'...
Originally Posted By LuLu I don't think the problem is (solely) the number of guests in the ride queues. To me it more the number of guests in the walkways, stores and restaurants. And the entrance turnstiles! As a deluxe AP, it's easy for me to say, but these SoCal APs seem to have hastened the demise of the experience. No blame on the buyers, of course. They're just doing what Disney wanted 'em to!
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<Disneyland is the Great Southern California Community Center now, available to all for just pennies per day with an E-Z automatic monthly payment option!>> Which is why we have not been back in over a year. Why should I blow 3-4K for a SoCal vacation if DL is going to be packed to the rafters every day?
Originally Posted By Marlin Perkins I wonder how many times a year SoCal APers visit the park. I know some probably go every week. You know that puts Disney in a bind. They want the local business and even if locals don't spend much money at the park everytime they go, they DO spend some money at the park and DT over time. Certainly they spend more in a year than the average family who visits from out of town once a year. Still, you would think the executives would have to go back at some point and look at the QUALITY of DL. You know Walt is spinning in his grave right now.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Some very thin skinned folks here, as Westsider has a valid point. And perhaps we are sensitive to it because deep down we know he is right? Disneyland wasn't meant to be some community center where you just "dropped in" every couple weeks to ride a ride or see the fireworks and then leave. That wasn't how the park or its infrastructure was designed in the 1950's, or the 1990's. AP's who are dropping it at random for a few hours after work on Friday are using the park the wrong way from how it was designed to be used. In short, we are doing it wrong. I know I am visiting less frequently because of the huge crowds milling around, hanging out, and then going home after a few hours. Disneyland just wasn't designed for this kind of casual yet overwhelming demand. Westsider speaks the truth on this one I'm afraid.
Originally Posted By TP2000 BTW, I totally LOVE the Marlin Perkins handle! A total blast from the past, presented by Mutual of Omaha!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***AP's who are dropping it at random for a few hours after work on Friday are using the park the wrong way from how it was designed to be used. In short, we are doing it wrong.*** Nobody's doing anything "wrong", an annual pass entitled people to show up as often as they want, for as little time as they wish. If management doesn't like it, they should change the AP rules (though I'm at a loss to figure out how they could enforce a "minimum required stay"...perhaps access should be denied at certain hours or something). And if customers don't like it, they have two choices. Complain to Disney and hope Disney listens, or vote with their wallets and refuse to show up til something changes. Don't blame the passholders for Disney's policies.
Originally Posted By Pollyana I know for us, we decided not to renew our APs. Our last trip was just too crowded. We live in AZ and made the trek 3 times a year. I love Disneyland and we will return but just need some time off.
