Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder ... of someone with views like this- "No one is disputing the war crimes of the Bush Administration. You know, it's possible to dislike both presidents and both major parties. After all, Obama did say he was going to pull the troops out of Iraq and yet nothing's happening. You could apply the "nothing's happening" rule to countless promises that Obama made while campaining for the presidency. If you really look at the evidence you will see that both parties are controlled by special interests and banking elites. Both parties are killing the country with horrible policies. Policies that are handed down from globalist roundtable think tanks like the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group and The Council on Foreign Relations. Do some research and you will realize that the idea of the two party system is a fraud aimed to divide the people while destroying the nation for the best interests of banking and corporate elite who fund both parties."
Originally Posted By mawnck I agree with that first full paragraph at least. The rest is just a hair too conspiracy-theory for me. I sincerely doubt that the two parties are in cahoots with an evil international cabal of billionaire business leaders. However, billionaire business leaders and political parties, left to their own devices and pursuing their own selfish interests, can be just as effective. Who is our "someone" here? And can I assume that the research he wishes us to do does not involve Encyclopedia Brittanica?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder This person posts regularly on the forum of the Long Beach Press Telegram. He's "Matt from Long Beach" and a couple of other posters there, particularly one named RW Crum, has called him "looney tunes" in a response from the guy to "seriosuly debate" him and prove him wrong. What's scary is that the vast majority of the people who post there seem to have come straight from these town halls after shouting down everyone.
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Originally Posted By Mr X From time to time I've believed that the two parties really are in cahoots, but these days I'm thinking not so much. There just seems to be so much bad blood, for good reason afaik, and if all that were just an act they'd be some damned good actors. As for the shadowy secret world cabal...if THAT'S true and they've orchestrated every world event for hundreds of years and will continue to do so with impunity and with the full backing of all the wealth and power on Earth; well, if that's true there sure ain't much that *I* can do about it so, why worry?
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 I do think that all of the "crazy" Republicans (the birthers, the deathers, the town hall yellers, the Obama is Naziers) are actually secret Democrats. They don't want the Republicans to be in office again, ever, so they act all crazy like so no one will vote for Republicans because they are uninformes lunatics. I do not know about the billionaires but they could probably fit into that conspiracy somewhere...maybe they are paying for the posterboard and the long distance calls to Hawaii for those checking on birth certificates?
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I do think that all of the "crazy" Republicans (the birthers, the deathers, the town hall yellers, the Obama is Naziers) are actually secret Democrats." You don't really think that, do you? Are you a Dem or Rep or neither? Just curious.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 No, I do not actually think that...I think that the people behind those theories are nut jobs and, unfortunately, are the most vocal members of the republican party. That was just me being fecetious. I am neither a Republican or a democrat. I am registered independent. I choose who I will vote for based on their records and their ideas, not on the R or D after their name. I think that both parties have some serious issues and I cannot fully align myself with either one. I am socially liberal and fiscally a little more conservative.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf I think the guy's a little nuts. First of all, our political system is designed to make it hard for any president to do too much. And considering Obama has only been in office for 7 months (and a very trying 7 months at that!) I think he deserves a little slack. But he does seem to be too much of an idealist (and is surrounded by more idealists) and I think he is going to have to become a lot more practical in order to accomplish a lot of what he wants. And regarding the two-party system, I don't doubt both parties would like to keep the status quo. It is much easier to get a simple majority that way. You throw in another party or two and it becomes much more difficult to get anything done without a lot of compromise. I think we have enough difficulty getting anything done as it is. And destroying America isn't in the interest of any bankers, businessmen, etc. That just crazy talk.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>And destroying America isn't in the interest of any bankers, businessmen, etc. That just crazy talk.<< It could be, if the end game is to have an elite few own literally everything. I doubt there is any such conspiracy, but I don't doubt that this could be the end result anyway.
