Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/10/mexico.heads/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/...dex.html</a> The linked article recounts how five severed heads were found by a roadside earlier today. This type of thing is happening on a regular basis in Mexico anymore. Recently, it spilled over into texas, when a gun fight killed several people. It's something to keep an eye on, and could become a rather sore spot in U.S./Mexican relations.
Originally Posted By DAR I got some family members going down to the Rivera Maya area. But from what I heard the resort areas are still okay.
Originally Posted By quincytoo How stupid is this???? We go to Puerto Vallarta Mexico on a regular bases, I feel safer there then I do many parts of Canada and The States. Vancouver BC has had over 24 shootings with over 12 deaths in just a few weeks. Sorry but I feel safer in PV then I do Vancouver. When I become part of the Drug Cartel I might feel different until then I will keep on looking at the PV MLS site.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 I have many family members, friends and employees who live/lived in Mexico. It continues to be a very dangerous place. The highway bandits are notorious and with the drug cartel peaking it's even worse. Those that used to think nothing of driving into Jalisco and Mexico City now fly. You cannot load up the truck and take US goods into Mexico anymore for your family members that live there without risking be robbed blind and possibly fatally hurt. The resort area is vastly different than other areas of Mexico. The government does a good job of keeping that area sweeped as it is its cash cow for the country besides drugs and peddling other handmade goods. The roads and highways of Mexico have been a very dangerous place for many many years. And now the gang activity flowing between the states and Mexico is lethal.
Originally Posted By quincytoo WOW They were found in Jalisco...Up until now it has been mainly border towns.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Good point, Quincy. Presumably, the five guys who were beheaded were not random victims. They were almost certainly involved in the drug trade -- as dealers, or as agents who were attempting to stop the trade. I'd guess the same would be true for most of the 12 people murdered in Vancouver recently. Most of them were probably involved in criminal activity. I live near Detroit, which is on-again,off-again the Murder Capital of the US. I go into the city regularly. I don't worry about being killed. It's not random tourists who get killed. It's mostly people who are involved knee-deep in criminal operations. And, tragically, it's sometimes party-store clerks and gas-station attendents. Sometimes it's people who are victims of domestic violence. Once in a while it's a truly random attack on an innocent bystander/tourist. The problem with Mexico is, the violence associated with Mexican drug trafficking is obviously escalating. It is becoming more brutal, and it is spilling across the border. And it is becoming less confined to those who choose to be involved in drug trading. Completely innocent people are being kidnapped, caught in cross-fire, robbed, or otherwise victimized. A few years ago, I spent a completely blissful day as a tourista in Tiajuana. I knew enough not to drink the water, accept offers for dope or companionship, or get into an unmarked taxi. With that knowledge, I was golden. I wandered the streets and had a great time. Now... there's not a chance in hell that I'd willingly spend a day in Tiajuana.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 But in Detriot you still have your civil rights Inspector. Have something happen in Mexico and who knows which side you'll come out on. I know I probably seem radical but I will not give this country a penny of my money until it cleans up its act. The beautiful rich traditions and vitality of its people, my ancestors continues to be raped by its leaders. The treatment of women... Aw, nevermind, I'm getting to wound up.
Originally Posted By quincytoo Actually I just talked to a friend and came back to repost. It seems some of the over 12 murders in Vancouver can be traced back to the cocaine shortage which starts in Mexico, so it is NOT the cartel BUT the drug shortage that was started by them that has lead to this all gang war in Vancouver BC. Puerto Vallarta, Playa Del Carmen, Cozumel to some small extent Cabo, all are rather like what Disneyland is in La......yes La is dangerous a Gangland city BUT you can find areas that are safe. The above Mexican cities are kinda like the Disneyland in Mexico....can bad things happen??? You bet it can BUT if you keep your senses about you and don't hang with the drug cartel, good chances you will be fine.
Originally Posted By DAR <<don't hang with the drug cartel>> And that might be the lesson of the day.
Originally Posted By quincytoo I feel strongly about this. I have a few friends who actually LIVE in Puerto Vallarta, Americans, Canadians, British and Mexicans who live in PV and love it and have shown me the beauty of this wonderful city and her incredible gentle people. So far the violence has NOT spread over to PV and kinda like Disneyland in gang filled LA I am hoping it does not because one day I hope to call this city my part-time home.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<But in Detriot you still have your civil rights Inspector. Have something happen in Mexico and who knows which side you'll come out on.>> OMG. Absolutely. The lines between law-enforcement and personal greed and drug trafficking are totally blurred in Mexico. <<I know I probably seem radical but I will not give this country a penny of my money until it cleans up its act.>> Your position doesn't seem radical to me at all; it seems principled. I agree with you. Mexico has rich traditions, a number of national resources, and the potential to be a power player in the 21st Century World. And the current government (like the governments before it) is allowing the country to operate as a third-world, corrupt, drug-trade-influenced shadow of what it could be. Que lastima.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Here in Southern California, they'e warning people NOT to go to Mexico for Spring Break. Anywhere in Mexico. If I can find a link I'll post it.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains My cousin mentioned he canceled his trip to Mexico for this reason...
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I suppose this will do. <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-travel6-2009mar06,0,7157441.story" target="_blank">http://www.latimes.com/news/na...41.story</a> Although a google search gets a lot more.
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Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Sorry, mele. I'm not going to marry a latina just so that I can visit another (admittedly beautiful) casino/resort complex! Nor am I ballsy enough to try the fly-to-Toronto-to-fly-to-Havana scam. Believe it or not, I have a big aversion to the all-male detention-center thing.
