Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/20/bush.stem.cell.ap/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI CS/06/20/bush.stem.cell.ap/index.html</a> Some excerpts: "President Bush won't listen to the 80 Nobel laureates or his own director of the National Institutes of Health, who all support embryonic stem cell research. Most importantly, President Bush won't listen to the overwhelming majority of Americans who call out for stem cell research." Republican presidential hopefuls are split on the scope of federal involvement in embryonic stem cell research. Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani have broken with Bush -- and the GOP's social conservatives -- in backing the expansion of federal funding for such research. At the Republican debate May 3, Giuliani said he supports such an expansion with limits, "as long as we're not creating life in order to destroy it, as long as we're not having human cloning." Rivals Mitt Romney and Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas oppose the expansion. As governor of Massachusetts, Romney tried to stop legislation that encouraged expanded embryonic stem cell research. His veto was overturned. Most of the Democratic candidates have urged Bush to expand the research. The president is "deferring the hopes of millions of Americans who do not have the time to keep waiting for the cure that may save or extend lives," Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said. Sen. Hillary Clinton, R-New York, said if she is elected president, she will lift restrictions on stem cell research. "This is just one example of how the president puts ideology before science, politics before the needs of our families," she said. And former Sen. John Edwards, also vying for the Democratic presidential nomination, said the president "had a simple choice today: direct the full force of American scientific ingenuity towards responsible, life-saving medical research or pander to a narrow segment of his political base." _____________ My support for stem cell research is unequivocal. I have a blind brother and a father in law with Alzheimer's. Both could have or can still be helped. Once Bush is put out of our misery, hopefully a more humane president will take office.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> President Bush won't listen to the overwhelming majority of Americans who call out for stem cell research." << About 80% according to the most recent polls. But yeah, actually representing the people of this nation isn't what bush is about.
Originally Posted By ecdc C'mon, don't you guys know Democrats are just as bad? They're all the same. I saw Nancy Pelosi step on a kid with Parkinson's and I'm pretty sure Harry Reid hates Jewish people.
Originally Posted By DAR <<C'mon, don't you guys know Democrats are just as bad? They're all the same. I saw Nancy Pelosi step on a kid with Parkinson's and I'm pretty sure Harry Reid hates Jewish people.>> No there not. There the only one's who care about others. Republicans don't. I have accepted this fact.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I see Larry, Curly and Mo are at it again." And your constructive comment about Stem Cells is??????
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< No there not. There the only one's who care about others. Republicans don't. I have accepted this fact. >>> You seem to miss the point. If 80% of American support the type of stem cell research that was in the vetoed bill, then that would imply that a majority of Republicans support this as well. The other 20% likely have a heavy degree of commonality of those out of step with most of the country on immigration, and also were the same ones out of step about Mary Schiavo. Ironically, it's this core group of people that seem to think they represent the majority opinion in the country.
Originally Posted By Mr X Don't know if I agree with that, SD. I think that core group of people consider the majority of Americans to be immoral heathens. And they represent the MORAL opinion in the country.
Originally Posted By ClintFlint2 ///And your constructive comment about Stem Cells is??????/// Fund the programs. Use the cells to help those in need. I interact with alzheimers clients almost daily and the disease hurts close family members the most. How many sons, daughters, husbands or wives have I seen over the past 7 years leave my homes in tears because their parent or spouse doesn't know who they are during visits. Just think if we would have channeled all of those countless dollars towards research instead of invading Iraq. Whoever voted or decided to invade a non- belligerent and waste all of that precious money over the last 4 years should be the ones who are affected the most by these kinds of diseases. But I guess the world doesn't work like that, too bad. It will be just my luck that I wanted the funding the most and invasion the least and I will be the one afflicted 35 years from now. I hope not.
Originally Posted By DAR But the majority of funding and research should be left up to private companies, they'll just do a better job. They always do.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Only if you get "big government" out of their way to let the marketplace do what it does best. Now that's a conservative value - somebody should tell bush.
Originally Posted By cmpaley Bush finally does something that is pro-life. I thought pro-life meant human life is sacred from conception to natural death. Unfortunately, he's about as pro-life as Pol Pot or Stalin what with his enthusiasm for the death penalty and unjust, unwarranted wars of choice. But he says he's against abortion, euthenasia and embryonic stem-cell research. I guess that means that human life is sacred from conception to birth and then from diagnosis until natural death. What a fraken hypocrite!
Originally Posted By DAR <<Unfortunately, he's about as pro-life as Pol Pot or Stalin>> Yes not only will he go down as a bad President, but now he's comparable to ruthless dictators. It seems that credibility has left the building.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>Yes not only will he go down as a bad President, but now he's comparable to ruthless dictators. It seems that credibility has left the building.<< Nice job taking me out of context. On the issue of human life, he IS comparable. On other issues, not so much. Then again, he did say, "it would be easier if this were a dictatorship. Just so long as I'm the dictator. Hehehehe."
Originally Posted By cmpaley And for the humor impaired, the last sentence of post 17 was intended to be a joke, Okay!?
Originally Posted By jonvn I don't like Bush, but he's not quite Pol Pot. This stem cell stuff is so crazy. These embryos, which are little more than a few cells, would be destroyed ANYWAY. This is all completely irrational and one reason I would have never voted for the guy in the first place, because of this sort of backwards nonsense.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "This stem cell stuff is so crazy. These embryos, which are little more than a few cells, would be destroyed ANYWAY." Exactly.
