Originally Posted By thenurmis Just wondering where in the world can you smoke pot, with out breaking the law. I beleave that in Canada you can smoke it in your own home, and you can have an amount that is not consedered more than for personal use, you can not buy it , you are allowed to grow it, but only again for personal use. but you are not allowed to buy seeds ( so I am not sure how you grow something with out a seed) But to be honest I am not even sure if that is the law, and I could be very wrong. Still my question remians where can you , "be happy" with out risking being very sad. and no I am not planning a holiday
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy I'm not sure of the laws in CO, but my brother-in-law's mom lived there, and she would have a little pot before bed.
Originally Posted By thenurmis LOL I know alot of people in Vancouver who feel the same ( about them selves or their little brothers)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo In Holland it is legal, and there are brown cafe's to smoke and eat it. And in Denmark, the nation of Christiania allows it as well. Although it is a drug, I would much rather encounter a stoner than a drunk. Pot doesn't make people violent.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Well, even though it's not violent, it's not for kids. At least, that's what "The Facts of Life" told me---with the help of Helen Hunt, no less! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg9ZOgbtmEU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Vg9ZOgbtmEU</a>
Originally Posted By thenurmis I have read a rash of new studies that state pot is a lot harder on you , than orig. thought. How ever all the studies that I have read have used exstrem users as there primary focus groups. I tend to aggree with Dave , that most of the pot heads I have dlt with, are alot more mellow, than the drinkers, or users of other drugs. Still I don't see my self chillin with a bong any time soon.
Originally Posted By Schmitty Good Vibes Pot's not legal in Holland. It's a misdemeanor. However, the laws against it are entirely uninforced to the point where the courts have decided not to rule against any one for possesion. The laws against cannibis remain on the books for reasons of international relations, etc. It's well tolerated in Canada, but not so much as the Netherlands. You can still get busted in Canada.
Originally Posted By onlyme What a funny topic. >>In Holland it is legal, and there are brown cafe's to smoke and eat it.<< I hope people aren't just sitting there drinking coffee and dipping their hands into their little baggies and eating it. If you mean, like Brownies...that's such a waste. >>Pot doesn't make people violent.<< True, but it does make you eat an entire box of fruit loops, for starters...
Originally Posted By thenurmis <<True, but it does make you eat an entire box of fruit loops, for starters..>> you just made me snort OJ out my nose...thanks
Originally Posted By Mr X >>>Pot's not legal in Holland. It's a misdemeanor. However, the laws against it are entirely uninforced to the point where the courts have decided not to rule against any one for possesion.<<< If true, then other countries definitely RECOGNISE that Holland sees pot as illegal "in name only". Reason I say this is because there was a newspaper article here in Japan about this group of foreigners in jail for possession of marijuana. I think there were 5 or so people in all, American, Australian maybe, French guy, and anyway 1 guy from Holland. They allowed ALL the rest of the prisoners to be extridited to their home countries for "punishment" (a slap on the wrist, most likely) but that poor bastard from Holland is STILL sitting in a Japanese jail. Why? Because his home country would not punish him (so they couldn't extradite him for "punishment" at home)! How messed up is THAT? p.s. moral of the story, don't do drugs. Especially in japan.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 The city I live in is another place in which smoking pot is such a minor legal infraction that it's not even enforced. The history, I guess, is that in the 60's or early 70's we were such a liberal, hippy/commune/natural-type college-town community that our City Council decided that we would NOT enforce the state laws against pot. Instead of possession/consumption of a "personal quantity" being a serious offense, we made it a little misdemeanor, the rough equivalent of a parking violation. Those caught could get, at most, a $5 ticket. In truth, what they usually got was a warning to be more careful and/or a request from a police officer to dump their stash out onto the ground. Under pressure from the State, the City has raised the fine from $5 to something like $25. But the non-enforcement policy pretty much remains. That policy seems a little bit less rooted in laid-back-ness than it once was (though, as a community, we still don't get bent out of shape over the thought of someone indulging). Part of the lack of enforcement now is due to pragmatic reasons: our jail and our courts are way overflowing, and we just don't have space or time to add small-time stoners to our list of people to deal with. Interesting (or not) NOTE #1: 25 years ago (when I first moved here), whenever I'd spend a couple hours shopping or whatever downtown, I'd always find myself at least once on the sidewalk behind someone who smoked as they strolled. No biggie. Nice smell. Go to a neighborhood or dive or music bar, and they'd be smoking in the open at the next table. Concert? You didn't need to bring any. You only had to inhale once in a while. But NOW... even though the law and enforcement are substantially the same, I hardly EVER smell it in public. Times have changed. NOTE #2: Unlike some college towns, the University here is not confined to an insulated, well-defined little quarter. The "border" between the City and the University is ragged and ever-changing. And The U has decided to have a no-tolerance policy on pot. That means that stoners tread a real mine-field if they decide to go for a walk downtown on a nice summer's day. Get caught at Liberty and State? "Drop it. Crush it out. Move on." Get caught 20 feet further south? "Yer under arrest." Get a record, the whole nine yards. NOTE #3: I've been lucky enough to travel a little bit around the US and Canada and the Caribbean. I'm a gregarious enough tourist; I'll talk to fellow tourists or Vegas blackjack dealers or Jamaican busdrivers or whoever. "So where are you from?" "The Detroit, Michigan area." "Oh, you're from Detroit!" "Well, I say 'Detroit' because people know that city. But really I'm from Ann Arbor." And then it goes one of two ways: (1) "Ann Arbor! Whoa! University of Michigan! What did you think of Harbaugh's pass in that game against Iowa? That was something, huh? Think Michigan is still going to get an invitation to the Rose Bowl?!" Or... (2) "Ann Arbor?! HASH BASH! [It's an annual day-long gathering to celebrate the bud.] Oh, man! I almost got to go to the Hash Bash one year! AWESOME!!!" UGH. I usually don't tell them I have zero use for college football and that The Bash has become an embarrassment. I mean, like, we're just kind of being laid back about this, okay? We don't need no big confrontational assembly with a lawn-ful of protesters, okay? Really. Peace, man.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy <They allowed ALL the rest of the prisoners to be extridited to their home countries for "punishment" (a slap on the wrist, most likely) but that poor bastard from Holland is STILL sitting in a Japanese jail.> Reminds me of the whole Schapelle Corby thing.
Originally Posted By thenurmis Did not Sr Paul McCarntey get hit hard for pot in Japan? You would think that people all around the world would understand or know that Japan has the nastiest drug laws around.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>Reminds me of the whole Schapelle Corby thing<< I didn't know people in the US would even know about that! It was what I thought of, too (when Mr X said "especially not Japan" I thought "or Bali!") Anyway, the laws in Australia are like most places, I think - if you just have it for personal use and smoke it in your own home you're not really going to be arrested. I know my friend's younger brother grows pot in the family's backyard, and when I mentioned it I was told that it "wasn't enough" for him to be arrested over. I still can't believe his parents let him do it, whether he'd be arrested or not!
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Yeah Liberty, my job is with news, so I've seen stuff on it before. Then I read up on the case online, and it just made me heartsick. I felt so bad for her that I wished I *hadn't* read about it (if she is indeed innocent, that is, which I'm inclined to believe, but you know even more about it than I do I bet). <It was what I thought of, too (when Mr X said "especially not Japan" I thought "or Bali!")> I thought that too.
Originally Posted By Mr X Yikes. Horrible story. Guess I'll go ahead and cross Bali off my "places to see" list! Anyplace where you can get the death penalty by accident...not a good place to travel to!
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle We (my family) pretty much agree she's innocent, too, TDG - but I "like" to believe she's guilty, because I'd rather not think of her being there if she actually *didn't* do it. It's a scary, awful story, either way.
