Gates Professor of Victimology

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    Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom

    And this from the UK.


    <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/stephaniegutmann/100004690/henry-louis-gates-professor-of-victimology-heads-for-marthas-vineyard-to-lick-his-wounds/" target="_blank">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/n...-wounds/</a>

    <<Henry Louis Gates, professor of victimology, heads for Martha's Vineyard to lick his wounds.

    You would think it would be getting harder to peddle this kind of victimology. Gates is a professor at one of the most elite universities in the country. For reasons that are unclear, he lives in a home owned by the university. (Is it a perk of his professorship; does he get a subsidized rental rate?) The white policeman who arrested him reported to a black police commissioner. Cambridge, Massachusetts is run by a black mayor (the second consecutive black mayor of the city), in a state with a black governor, in a country with a black president. Yet Gates will continue to make a living out of grievance.

    “Gates could have perceived the whole thing for what it was – an obvious misunderstanding. He could have produced his identification, proved to the officer that he lived in the house and explained his unusual behaviour, perhaps showing a little deference to the law in the process. Instead, he decided to treat the whole thing as an intolerable insult, refusing to step outside and insinuating that the police were only at his door “because I’m a black man in America”.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom

    I thought this comment was "spot on".

    <<Prof. Gates’s behavior - and President Obama’s implicit excuse for that behavior - will in fact lead to the needless deaths of young Black men in America and of police officers who confront them in what would otherwise be easily-defused situations. Prof. Gates is teaching by example that the appropriate reaction of an African-American man to any challenge by a police officer doing his lawful duty is to engage in confrontation and to escalate that confrontation to the point of an arrest, presumably in the name of defending the “pride” of Black men in America.

    I saw what that attitude did when an Oakland (California) police officer responded to a routine animal control call back in 1993. The unwillingness of a dog owner to allow his pet to be taken into quarantine after biting a neighbor escalated to the point where the dog owner shot and killed a cop and the cops in return shot and killed him and his father.

    Prof. Gates AND President Obama both share an obligation to teach that, whatever the past history of police abuse of African-Americans, the future of race relations in the United States can only be brighter if and when Black parents teach their children that the police are not automatically their enemy.>>
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

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    Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom

    <a href="http://spectator.org/archives/2009/07/24/there-are-towns-a-lot-tougher" target="_blank">http://spectator.org/archives/...-tougher</a>

    <<There Are Towns a Lot Tougher Than Cambridge.

    Gates and his cab driver were putting their shoulders against his front door on a Thursday afternoon in a residential neighborhood after finding it damaged in -- wouldn't you know it -- a previous burglary. A woman in the street saw them and called the police. An officer responded almost immediately. Is there anything unusual about this? Would we want the police or the woman to act in any other way? If nothing else, Gates should feel fortunate that he lives in a neighborhood where people look after such things. In many another urban neighborhood, somebody could be prying a door open in mid-afternoon and no one would pay the slightest attention. Even if they did, the police might take half an hour to arrive.

    Gates has chosen to drag the whole country into a racial melodrama just to prove a point. Maybe that isn't so bad. Maybe we can forget about health care for a while. (On the other hand, maybe the liberal press will tell us we have to adopt Obama's health-care program in order to assuage our guilt over the ordeal of Henry Louis Gates.) Boston is a very class-conscious town, with Harvard professors at the top and Irish cops very near the bottom. It won't be surprising to see the entire academic establishment set its weight upon the police force, once again turning them into scapegoats with all the implications for crime and disorder that occurred in the 1960s.>>
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    I dunno. I could SWEAR there was another topic on Gates here somewhere.....
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Yeah, with actual comments from LP posters, rather than copy and paste jobs...
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    <Gates and his cab driver were putting their shoulders against his front door on a Thursday afternoon in a residential neighborhood after finding it damaged in -- wouldn't you know it -- a previous burglary. A woman in the street saw them and called the police.>>

    No need to continue reading beyond this point. (I'd post a recipe but I'm trying to avoid snacks.)

    What percentage of burglars hire cab drivers to assist in their break-ins? The parked taxi, the luggage from the trip... all obvious signs that this was not a crime in progress.

    If Prof Gates had been Caucasian, the woman wouldn't have bothered calling the cops. He was racially profiled by her and by the officer. Case closed.

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    Originally Posted By SpokkerJones

    I love Black People.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    ***the future of race relations in the United States can only be brighter if and when Black parents teach their children that the police are not automatically their enemy***

    And on to the "boy, isn't THAT a load of crap!" portion of our program.

    <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6161559" target="_blank">http://www.democraticundergrou...x6161559</a>

    The cop lied in the police report.

    So much for Professor Gates being the bad guy.

    What say you, Kennesaw?
     
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    Originally Posted By barboy

    ///And on to the "boy, isn't THAT a load of crap!" portion of our program.///

    LOL!!!!

    Good God that was well placed and timed, X
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    Democratic Underground really??? Really???

    And Professor Gates is a tenured professor at Harvard and went to Yale. I wish I was that victimized
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    ***Democratic Underground really??? Really???***

    No, DAR. CNN.

    <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/07/27/gates.arrest" target="_blank">http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US...s.arrest</a>

    Really.
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    The cop lied in the police report.

    So much for Professor Gates being the bad guy.

    What say you, Kennesaw?<<

    OK, let me ask you a question Mr. X, right now you are taking the Professor and the eye witness who called in at their word...You are believing exactly what they say verbatim...

    Yet immediately the police officer is lying. All we have is he said/she said, and you are basically calling the cops liars without any proof otherwise.

    It's hilarious how you pick and choose who is telling the truth and who is lying based on whether it will fit your arguments or not.

    Now I don't know if he lied/she lies/ they all lied. I do know that after hiring a lawyey, I think the person who called in may be looking for some sort of pay day or something in the future....An exclusive interview with CNN or something, so I believe she may have a little more to gain from lying than the police officer....
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    She would have nothing to gain by lying. That doesn't even make any sense!

    And it's not only that...notice also that on the now released audio of the cop speaking to his superiors there is NO evidence (zero, zilch) of a screaming "tumultuous" black man in the background that would prompt cop to need to leave and go into the street in order to "hear properly".

    You keep believing whatever you want, but the story here is crumbling for cop and I agree now more than ever that the President was absolutely correct in calling his actions "stupid" (that's being kind, actually).
     
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    Originally Posted By queenbee

    <<Now I don't know if he lied/she lies/ they all lied. I do know that after hiring a lawyey, I think the person who called in may be looking for some sort of pay day or something in the future....An exclusive interview with CNN or something, so I believe she may have a little more to gain from lying than the police officer....>>

    Looking for a payday? How do you figure this? She has been making statements through a laywer. Do you expect another statement bigger than the contridiction of the police officer's report that she could sell to the media?
     

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