Originally Posted By RoadTrip Why the conservatives are testy… They’ve had a bad year. Several high level republicans are facing criminal charges. Bush’s approval ratings are at an all time low. Even conservatives are calling for an exit from Iraq. Recent Mid-East elections show that democracy might not be such a good thing. Budget deficits continue to grow to record highs. US trade deficit is at an all time high. Bush plan to revise Social Security was a non-starter. Bush plan to add prescription drug coverage to Medicare has been a disaster. Economic “recovery†has never trickled down to the working people. Disaster recovery from last year’s hurricanes has been poorly handled. Brokeback Mountain is a big hit. Bush plan for the next year is WHAT?? Yes, it has been a bad year for the republicans. No wonder Beau and Plano are a little more testy than usual. But I don’t hate them or conservatives in general, or even George W. Bush. Liberal’s don’t hate people. We don’t need to. We’re smarter than them… ;-)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Liberal’s don’t hate people. We don’t need to. We’re smarter than them…>> We're just not very good with punctuation... ;-) Should be "Liberals don't hate people..." No apostrophe required.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Anybody see 60 minutes last night about the war vets who were severely disabled? I sat watching with my wife and we cringed. I really am starting to think that it is the wrong war at the right time. Any thoughts? Very good points trip.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I'd much the Democrats back in charge so that we can be fighting Islamic terrorists on the streets in our own cities and town. Your right these past elections in the Middle East suck, lets put Saddam back in charge. Bring back the rape rooms. Bring back the mass murders and graves. As for domestic spending. Hey 40 acres and a Lexus guys!
Originally Posted By cape cod joe KT-----For my post, I strictly meant same money different locations, as we seem to be putting 100 bill in one place Iraq! How about disseminating the money all over as I told my wife terrorism in all over!???????? I think we all have to dispense with the hyperbole here and just focus on same money but where to put it.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Road Trip, conservatives are " testy " because we are in a war that threatens Americans like no war in history, yet liberals are giving talking points and the terrorist bill of rights to the enemy. It's that simple.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Cape Cod Joe, 60 minutes is the most liberal piece of crap show on TV today. These clowns brought us the Rathergate bogus memo story and never miss a chance to push every anti Bush, anti war " story " they can gin up. They are just another group of liberals who see they have no power and America is going the other way than they want.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Beau--I know but believe it or not, like O'Reilly, they were fair and balanced and all but one of the severely maimed people defended George and the war which surprised me. That's why I like to be eclectic in my learning.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Addendum Beau---If I can't be open-minded and see everything in the media, then I can't blast other people for being intellectually intransigent. I HAVE to keep an open mind because I LOVE to tell people that THEY should do likewise, then we can all GROW and LEARN together rather than just bellowing our OWN prejudiced agendas. Make sense?
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Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder You'd think he knows the liberals are catching up to him or something.... otherwise why else give a rat's....
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<How are they going to defend the country?>> By going after Osama bin Laden and al Qaida instead of going after Akbar and his cousins in Baghdad. <<How are they going to fix social security?>> Minor tweaks are all that is necessary. The maximum salary on which Social Security is taken has not been increased in years. Double the maximum and we account for inflation AND take care of the problem. <<How are they going to create more jobs and ut more people in their own homes?>> Limit the deductibility of executive salaries to a maximum of 2 million per year. Give a tax credit for any job created with a salary of less than 100,000. Democrats have answers. Conservatives just aren't listening.
Originally Posted By bboisvert RE 13: Hang on, I feel wierd, I think I'm... being taken over be the spirit of... Beaumandy... <<<begin Madame Leota seance music>>> Well, RT, I see that you still haven't offered any answers. You liberals just don't get it! I asked a simple question and you have to go ask moonbats like Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan for directions. What a bunch of losers. Face it, you are all so pathetic why not just put Saddam on the dem ticket for '08? <<<end>>> Woah! What was that?!
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <By going after Osama bin Laden and al Qaida instead of going after Akbar and his cousins in Baghdad.> How are we to "go after" Osama any more than we already are? And what about those members of al Queda who are in Iraq? <The maximum salary on which Social Security is taken has not been increased in years.> SS benefits paid out are based on payments taken in. If you increase the salary cap, you take in more money now, but pay out a lot more later on, making the insolvency problem worse. <Democrats have answers. Conservatives just aren't listening.> We're listening. We've just seen that the Democrat answers don't work.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>Road Trip, conservatives are " testy " because we are in a war that threatens Americans like no war in history<< The terrorists have no way they can bring down our government or our Constitution or our way of life. The British were the last ones who might have been able to do that in 1812, and possibly the Union or the Confederacy in the Civil War depending on your point of view. The terrorist can wound us, but it is impossible for them to deal a fatal blow. The only way the terrorists can destroy the United States is if we change our way of life in response to their attacks so drastically that we are no longer a nation of law and a nation of liberty. To me, the greatest threat to everything we hold dear is ourselves, not Osama bin Laden or Iraq.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>SS benefits paid out are based on payments taken in. If you increase the salary cap, you take in more money now, but pay out a lot more later on, making the insolvency problem worse. << Then cap benefits as well. Means test it, if you have to.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Then cap benefits as well. Means test it, if you have to.> Benefits are capped. What you seem to be saying is we should charge some people more for Social Security than others. So far, Democrats have rejected that arguement.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Just raise the age limit to collect on SS to 75 instead of max 72 now as Americans are healthier and are living longer and who wants to retire anyways?
Originally Posted By ecdc "How are we to "go after" Osama any more than we already are? And what about those members of al Queda who are in Iraq?" Maybe by sending in a force of 200,000 to Afghanistan initially instead of a small strike force, then diverting the rest to Iraq. And what about those members of Al Qaeda who are in Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, etc? Conservatives have had it in for Iraq from the get go, and they just cannot explain effectively why it is so much more important than any other dictator or any other country that houses members of Al Qaeda. The need to defend anything and everything the administration does is getting sad.
