Originally Posted By Mr X <a href="http://home.flash.net/~evt/rapture.htm" target="_blank">http://home.flash.net/~evt/rapture.htm</a> Wow, I had no idea. Well anyway, it's already Tuesday in Japan actually but everyone knows there are no Christians here so naturally nobody appears to be missing. So which LPers are gone now? Anyone we'll miss?
Originally Posted By Mr X Yeah, I was surprised too. Must have been my whole "there is no Jebus" thing.
Originally Posted By magnet I wonder what goes through the minds of these people when their predictions don't come true. Wait, X. You believe that someone named Jesus actually lived and was crucified, as a historical fact. You don't deny that - right? You just don't believe there is anything more to the story.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I am glad I keep my feelings to myself, my beliefs about Christianity are not as tame as Mr. X's...
Originally Posted By magnet ok. I guess it's impossible to live life without any faith at all. We all believe some things that we can't know for sure.
Originally Posted By Mr X Huh? If someone were to prove scientifically tomorrow that Jesus never existed, I'd be fine with that. I'm not sure whether he did or not anyway, I was just agreeing with ya.
Originally Posted By magnet No prob. It doesn't have to be about jesus. I still think even the most unreligious person believes in and relies on things that they don't fully understand. I don't know all the details about how my car works, but I have every confidence that when I turn the key it will start. I don't have anxiety about it when I go to get in it, nor do I have to understand how it works to enjoy it. Now, that's not a reason to believe in something you don't - but the very heart of the matter is that I don't think it's harder to believe in the reality of something you can't see than it is to rely on or have confidence in something you don't fully understand.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I still think even the most unreligious person believes in and relies on things that they don't fully understand.*** P.E.A.R.L. Physical Evidence and Rational Logic You don't have to understand things fully, of course not. But that's a far sight from "believing" in something for which there is no evidence and no logical basis.
Originally Posted By magnet absolutely true. However, people do have the capacity to believe in things that defy evidence and logic. You may call doing so irrational, but the capacity still exists. But further, I think life would be difficult without that ability to fudge on some details - no? Otherwise everyone would be driven to understand everything in the fullest degree before he or she could have any peace about it. Some of us do this, and its crippling. But humanity hasn't come to the place where every detail about life can be explained or understood. Nonetheless, we have faith that someday we will. There really isn't any reason to believe that we will succeed, but we still go on anyway. Is that irrational?
Originally Posted By Mr X ***However, people do have the capacity to believe in things that defy evidence and logic. You may call doing so irrational, but the capacity still exists.*** Sure, people have the "capacity" to believe in all sorts of ludicrous stuff. Why, I once firmly believed that a giant (talking??) rabbit brought chocolate in baskets to my house, and all houses, once a year and in just one night, all around the world. You don't "call" that sort of thing irrational, it IS irrational by definition. ***There really isn't any reason to believe that we will succeed, but we still go on anyway. Is that irrational?*** Why would learning new things be irrational? One need not learn *everything* in order to gain a better understanding of *something*.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I'm "tired" and "am" "going" to bed because "reading" another "thread" about this "topic" is "not" interesting in the "slightest".
Originally Posted By mawnck Greetings from Heaven. You wouldn't believe how fast the internet connections are up here! BTW, Iger, there's a guy up here named Walt who asked me to give you a message. You will be visited by three ghosts ...
Originally Posted By FilmNoir Well I'm still here and so is DH so we must have done something pretty naughty to not earn our way into heaven! Dang it!! On a funnier note, years ago when I was slightly a *believer* DH was walking behind me at WDW and suddenly he disappeared. I WAS CERTAIN *it* had happened and more than a little put out that DH got to go and I didn't. LMAO!!
