Originally Posted By utahjosh With the unbelievably low expectations I've seen on LP for Governor Palin, what can she do Thursday night that would be considered a WIN by even the farthest left LP poster?
Originally Posted By utahjosh My question wasn't what would make you want to vote for her, but what would let her win the debate?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 If she bests Biden on SUBSTANTIVE answers that she clearly came up with herself (not regurgitating talking points) and shows she can think on her feet, not parrot pre-scripted answers and zingers they've undoubtedly cooked up for her. If she legitimately looks more ready to be president/VP than Biden does - then she'll have won.
Originally Posted By DAR ^^^ So if you're not convinced that she's done that yet, what will change your mind??
Originally Posted By dshyates I think that with the low expectations, I think it will easy for her to get a "win" on the debate. Not necessarily win the debate, but a personal win. Most analyst believe that both McCain and Obama gained voters with the first debate. I believe that if Palin let's her charm shine, and doesn't really embarass herself, it will be seen as a win. At this point I am really starting to feel bad for her. After they wouldn't let her chit chat with Katie a second time without adult supervision, and they still got her with a toughie like "Other than Roe V. Wade, name one other Supreme Court case?" I feel bad for her.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Or if Biden makes her cry--she definitely won there too. Maybe that's plan B, if she cant remember the answers or just gets confused, they taught her on how to turn on the waterworks at the right moment and make Biden look a big bully. Evil Biden .
Originally Posted By mawnck >>My question wasn't what would make you want to vote for her<< I STILL wouldn't vote for her. If she's the only person on the ballot, I'm writing somebody in. Given her positions on things, I don't think there's anything she can do to win the debate - at least as far as us "farthest left LP posters" are concerned. If she suddenly develops substance and speaking ability, she'll still have to defend her and McCain's actions and advertising over the last month, not to mention her actions and positions in Alaska. Ain't no way. She'll win if Biden loses or the MC has been paid off by the GOP. No other possibilities.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <So if you're not convinced that she's done that yet, what will change your mind??> If she answers the questions more substantively and compellingly than Biden does. That's the bar that OUGHT to be set. You can generally tell when someone is saying things they've thought up themselves, and when they're just parroting pre-set answers. Biden has submitted himself to tons of tough questioning over the years (can you imagine what Tim Russert would have done to Palin? Biden went on with Russert lots of times) but the likes of Katie Couric flustered Palin. To beat Biden in the debate, she's got to look more presidential than he does. More ready to take over if necessary. Plain and simple. Now, that's what she's got to do to win in "absolute" terms. In the world of spin and lowered expectations, she basically just has to get through without any whoppers or deer in the headlights moments, and plenty of people will be ready to say she "won."
Originally Posted By WorldDisney I feel bad for her too actually. Dont get me wrong, she has NO business in the White House, not even in the Rose Garden lol, but she does seem like a very caring and decent person who just got thrown in the deep in of a pool after a few days of learning to swim. Look, I dont want her embarrrased anymore than she has been, but I dont want her to 'eek by' to the office either just because she can answer questions at a debate. What the hell is that?? At the end of the day, she hasnt shown any fortitude or ability that she can truly LEAD!!! If daddy President has to hold her hand now at an interview against hard hitting, formidable former 'America's Sweetheart' (now turned hottie lol) Katie Couric, something is deeply, deeeeply wrong here! Palin has to show she is this pittbull in lipstick she was talking about before, because right now she's just a waffling politician who now looks too afraid to even speak.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<You can generally tell when someone is saying things they've thought up themselves, and when they're just parroting pre-set answers. Biden has submitted himself to tons of tough questioning over the years (can you imagine what Tim Russert would have done to Palin? Biden went on with Russert lots of times) but the likes of Katie Couric flustered Palin.>> Again, another reason why I just feel more confident with Obama/Biden right now. Yes, I'm biased as hell, guilty, but those two have opened themselves up for all questioning and interviews. In fact, and I read this somewhere today, but cant remember where exactly, but you know how many interviews Biden has given since he's been named VP? Between 80-90 interviews! Now how many has Palin given to date since she was picked? 4 That's pathetic and Biden was picked only a week earlier than she was and the man has been everywhere. Which I think is funny when people talk about his gaffes when comparing Palins. The man has done EIGHTY interviews in 5 weeks time, its easier to find them. Palin has done 4 and has already created enough mistakes where conservatives are calling for her to quit after really only 3 interviews. If ANYTHING, they shouldve just threw her in the fire early instead of shielding her like an injured puppy and have her get use to interviewing, getting use to answering certain questions over and over again so she wouldnt caught off guard like the Pakistan question and all of that. Simply feel more polished. But with an entire FOUR interviews under belt under the big dogs, the same number of interviews Biden usually does in a single sunday morning on press shows and been doing for decades, no WONDER why she is not ready. Besides the fact he has the experience, KNOWS what he's talking about, he's simply comfortable in that setting. Hell, he debated 12 times in this campaign alone when he was running. Yeah, Palin is toast lol.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>4<< One was to People Magazine, another on the friendliest turf imaginable with Sean Hannity. Charles Gibson is no Mike Wallace, he's generally considered a "nice" person, not an attack dog. Katie Couric actually asked relevant, meaningful questions and had her stuff together. There was no "gotcha". Palin got herself. Having McCain sit there like he dad to protect her made her look even worse than she did on her own. McCain's weird facial expressions in that interview, squirming uncomfortably as Palin spoke, it was about the worst image they could follow up with. I hope they keep at it. ; )
Originally Posted By alexbook All she really has to do is play defense, and hope Biden comes out with another whopper. After all, this is the man who introduced his running mate as "Barack America," who said you have to have an Indian accent to work in a Dunkin' Donuts, and who talked about FDR going on TV during the Depression. If the big headline on Friday morning is Biden's latest gaffe, she's won.
Originally Posted By Daannzzz I sort of was feeling bad for her as well until I read this nicely done 2 page article. <a href="http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/09/30/palin_pity/" target="_blank">http://www.salon.com/mwt/featu...in_pity/</a>
