Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.pic2009.org/pressroom/entry/first_wave_of_organizations/" target="_blank">http://www.pic2009.org/pressro...zations/</a> This move is a threat to traditional bands everywhere.
Originally Posted By Mr X Wow, the Cadets drum corps is in this year. Probably the only halfway decent group on the whole list!
Originally Posted By Mr F What is he trying to teach our children? That Gay People can play instruments just as straight people can? This is against the bible and it morally wrong. I don't wants Gays playing in the same high school band as my child. We must make a proposition banding gays from playing musical instruments and going bands. Protect musicians. Please say no to Gays joining bands. Playing in a band should be defined as being for a straight person only. <<Rolls Eyes>> (I'm being sarcastic if you don't hint any)
Originally Posted By avromark Well Mr F. Don't you know you *chose* to be gay and you can *learn* to not be gay? Did you know that it's an infectious disease? Or something like that. I forget what the crackpot told me.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Oh, MAN! There's like eighty groups on that list already, and it's still growing. This is not a "parade." This is a MARATHON. It's not going to end until half-way through Obama's tenure. There are two types of advance-purchase tickets available: economy or deluxe bunk. If you travel from out of the area to attend this thing and manage to sit through its entirety, you will be legally required to change your official place of residence to DC.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 It's very cool that he's inviting an OUT gay marching band to participate. (Somehow, I don't think the "Lesbian/Gay Band" would have been invited to march in the McCain/Palin victory parade.) If the band is lucky, they'll be sandwiched between the Boy Scouts and the Firefighters.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF ^^^ But this is totally negated by the choice of clergy (using the term loosely) for the invocation...
Originally Posted By Mr X I don't think so BD. In fact, I would be hard pressed to locate ANY member of the "mainstream" clergy who would be appropriate for gays and lesbians considering the utter contempt and bigotry they consistently demonstrate. Perhaps going outside of a Christian denomination you could find someone, but that would open up a whole OTHER can of worms. On that front, Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I thought people wanted Obama to reach out to everyone and try and unite the country - I guess I was wrong. They want him to draw the line in the sand exactly where it has been for the last 16 years...sorry,I have got to give him credit for this as we all know it is not his belief....
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I very much like the idea that Obama is being inclusive in this. We're a diverse country, and the inauguration will reflect that.
Originally Posted By markymouse "In fact, I would be hard pressed to locate ANY member of the "mainstream" clergy who would be appropriate for gays and lesbians considering the utter contempt and bigotry they consistently demonstrate." Oh, please! The Episcopelians chose a gay man to be bishop of New Hampshire. The United Church of Christ voted as a denomination to endorse same sex marriage. There are pro-gay clergy in almost every mainstream denomination. It is so frustrating that people equate the religious with the religious right. And, ok, X, I'll bite. In "considering the utter contempt and bigotry they consistently demonstrate." does the "they" refer to the clergy or the gays and lesbians?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I'm not a mean person but I hope they throw their shoes at Rick Warren.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka I agree with vbdad. I truly believe that Obama feels that gays deserve equal rights but as the President, he has to work with as many people as possible. I want him to be a true leader and a true leader will make concessions to people he/she doesn't agree with. While I don't agree with the choice, all I have to do is think about the past 8 years and I am willing to let this go. I don't particularly like Rick Warren but he has a lot of good things to say and has helped a lot of people. I think he appeals to a lot of people who aren't necessarily as religious, also. It's not like he's going to give an anti-gay speech while on the platform. I say let him do his invocation. This is one of those instances where the more people complain about this, the more people are going to be turned off towards the cause.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I'm not a mean person but I hope they throw their shoes at Rick Warren." That's just stupid.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Would it be asking too much to have a non bigoted religious nutcase involved in the Inaguration?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Would it be asking too much to have a non bigoted religious nutcase involved in the Inaguration?" Are there any pastors you wouldn't call "religious nutcases" who were still for Prop 8? Is gay marriage that much of a litmus for you?
Originally Posted By utahjosh To some, anyone who believes in God or Jesus Christ as savior is a religious nutcase. Comparable to actually believing in the Easter Bunny.
