Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm" target="_blank">http://www.drudgereport.com/fl ashmfa.htm</a> >>ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER FAMOUS IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD Wed Oct 04 2006 20:32:06 ET A posting on ABCNEWS.COM of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser. The website PASSIONATE AMERICA detailed the startling exposure late Wednesday. ABCNEWS said in a statement: "We go to great lengths to prevent the names of alleged sex crime victims from being revealed. On Friday there was a very brief technical glitch on our site which was overridden immediately. It is possible that during that very brief interval a screen name could have been captured. Reviews of the site since then show no unredacted screen names." SEX CHAT WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of 18." ABC headlined the story: "New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote" But upon reviewing the records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the young man was in fact over the age of 18 at the time of the exchange. A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.<<
Originally Posted By jonvn And you know what? Even if the kid was 18 at the time, a person in a position of power who is making sexual advances on someone such as this is not only unethical, but definitely sexual harrassment. So, it really doesn't matter if the boy involved was 18 or 17 or 25.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Yeah, and the age of consent in DC is 16. But anywhere, this kind of activity between an adult and a kid is still creepy.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder So why post this in a seperate thread with the misleading thread title, Darkbeer?
Originally Posted By SuperDry It didn't take very long for the noise machine to take a situation of a Congressman having inappropriate sexual conversations with a minor into something to criticize the "mainstream media" now did it?
Originally Posted By idleBrain <<And you know what? Even if the kid was 18 at the time, a person in a position of power who is making sexual advances on someone such as this is not only unethical, but definitely sexual harrassment. So, it really doesn't matter if the boy involved was 18 or 17 or 25.>> Exactly. Foley was higher up the Congressional food chain than the pages. It's no different that a manager, director, or company officer making sexual advances on an subordinate. It reeks of abuse of power; precisely why virtually every corporation has rules against this kind of activity. And FWIW, I heard an audioclip of Drudge calling the 16-year-old pages "beasts" and blaming them for what Foley did. Freakin' unbelievable. I foolishly thought that "blame the victim" rhetoric fell out of favor with Monica. Silly me.
Originally Posted By FaMulan Dug, you keep going on and on about the age of consent for DC being 16. What, if any, 16, 18, 20 or 25 year old do you know of that has the maturity level to handle that kind of situation? Foley was wrong, Clinton was wrong, Franks was wrong and every manager, boss, person in power who behaves in an inappropriate way toward their subordinates is wrong for cultivating a climate where these things happen.
Originally Posted By cmpaley It is SOP for modern conservatives to not read whole stories but only pick out facts that they think confirms their point of view. Many modern liberals do it, too, but not as much.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Foley was wrong, Clinton was wrong, Franks was wrong> But only Foley was forced to resign.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Frank and Clinton may have been wrong, but the other people in question were consenting adults, not teens.
Originally Posted By FaMulan And only Foley was on and I believe Chairperson of the House Committe for Missing and Exploited Children. He was in charge of making laws to protect children from sexual predators while he, himself was one.
Originally Posted By DlandJB Dug, you keep going on and on about the age of consent for DC being 16. What, if any, 16, 18, 20 or 25 year old do you know of that has the maturity level to handle that kind of situation? >> He was simply stating the fact of it, not that he agreed with it. We talked about it last night and agreed that "age of consent" laws are not realistic in this day and age. We are not aware of any kid that would have the maturity level to warrent "consent" these days.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <Foley was wrong, Clinton was wrong, Franks was wrong> <But only Foley was forced to resign.> Clinton was impeached! That's a bit more severe me thinks.
Originally Posted By mele Foley was forced to resign? Seems to me his guilt and fear of his actions going public is what forced him to resign. I just read that Hastert says he is taking the blame BUT will not be stepping down. "The buck stops here" and yet he keeps his job? Exactly how does that work? Blah, blah, blah. Empty politics.
Originally Posted By Charliedontsurf But Clinton was not impeached for extra marrital affairs or harassment. The reps. on Capitol Hill charged him with not being honest and obstructing justice.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Dug, you keep going on and on about the age of consent for DC being 16.<< With all due respect, I have mentioned this once (as far as I recall), and only in the context of this conversation. I also added, "But anywhere, this kind of activity between an adult and a kid is still creepy."
Originally Posted By mele And here you are bringing it up AGAIN, Dug. You're obsessed! (just teasing)