Originally Posted By Donny This is to much. <a href="http://www.ehow.com/facts_4759267_alcohol-related-crimes.html" target="_blank">http://www.ehow.com/facts_4759...mes.html</a> Should people who have a fatal D.U.I. be charged with murder ?
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///Should people who have a fatal D.U.I. be charged with murder?/// What kind of murder do you mean? And just because a drunk driver is involved in a deadly collision doesn't mean the drunk caused the collision and ultimately the death. When I was 16 I jumped in a car with some wasted baseball teammates after a party back in high school. The driver(18) was "drunk as a skunk". Another car crossed a double yellow and came very close to creating a head-on at 50mph. Someone in our car, if not all of us, would have died if we collided.
Originally Posted By Donny Good point barboy, Let say someone goes and has 7 beers gets into a truck even when friends told them not to drive then goes and kills a family.Should this person be charged with Murder ?
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Vehicular man slaughter. Now if the driver had a history of DUIs, someone who makes a habit of driving after getting sloshed, I personally like the idea of a murder charge. The premeditation is in knowing a fatal accident could likely occur because of the impairment.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Never rush headlong into righteous indignation over vague and hypothetical scenarios. Resist the temptation.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///Should this person be charged with Murder?/// Again, what type of murder are you talking about? In California(are you in AZ, Donny--- I forgot?) we assign penalties for killing another based on circumstances or level of culpability/intent.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Now if the driver had a history of DUIs, someone who makes a habit of driving after getting sloshed, I personally like the idea of a murder charge. The premeditation is in knowing a fatal accident could likely occur because of the impairment." I don't think that's a good argument. After all, don't we ALL get taught from a young age here in the US that drinking impairs your ability to do things, including driving, and that drunk drivers can kill?
Originally Posted By Donny watch these videos and tell me this person would not be charged with attempted murder. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/31/60minutes/main4694666.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...66.shtml</a>
Originally Posted By barboy2 Donny, if one drives his car knowing his tires are severely bald and then a tire blows out on the highway causing a huge pileup and deaths, should the irresponsible driver face 15years to life like the story in the video? What about a driver who relies on corrective eyewear but willfully goes out driving anyway and runs head-on into a family of 4 due to poor eye sight killing all of them.......is that a 15 to life offense? How about the woman applying makeup and looking in the rear view moirror instead of the watching the road and slams into stopped traffic killing another? And what about street racing-----going 110mph down a blvd and hitting a street whore who just happened to be looking for her next 'John'. All 4 driving scenarios can be just as dangerous as DUI since that kind of carelessness can kill. If you ask me irresponsible/dangerous driving is all the same and should be treated the same.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Just like the last time he did this, what's your point here, Donny?
Originally Posted By Donny I think there are actions that go beyond negligent and those actions to me are worthy of the death penalty.
Originally Posted By Donny If proved beyond a Shadow of a doubt Child molestation,extreme fatal D.U.I, and some forms treason are worth of the death penalty.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Nothing is worthy of the death penalty, Donny, if that's your main point here.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 things will be much better when these drivers are only stoned out of their minds on thier legal marijuana. the goverment is making them drive drunk since they will not allow them the drugs they want.
Originally Posted By Labuda I somehow didn't know you're anti-death penalty, SPH, but I'm very pleased to learn that we have that common ground.
Originally Posted By Labuda Disneydad - it appears you may not be aware of this fact: alcohol and marijuana do not affect you in the same way. I have never known a person who WANTS to get high get drunk instead. Legalizing pot isn't likely to have an effect on drunk driving IMO.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 I don't know many marijuana users that is true. The only reason, I would guess, anyone would drink or smoke would be to get stoned/high. I don't have a thing in the world with folks smoking drugs I just don't want them heading my way at 75 mph.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 I hope that you and I never find anyone under the influence of anything doing 25 much less 75.I just don't want them hurting me or you for whatever reason !
