Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://onmilwaukee.com/myOMC/authors/jimmycarlton/wiaanewrulescheering.html">http://onmilwaukee.com/myOMC/a...ing.html</a> Words like scoreboard or air ball. You know because feelings.
Originally Posted By ecdc So the athletic group has had these rules in place for years, they've never been enforced, and a kid got in trouble for mocking them on Twitter. The rules are probably dumb, but this is another one of those times when people latch onto an outlying example that isn't widespread to "prove" the whole world is going to hell because of political correctness.
Originally Posted By ecdc Also, after watching Making a Murderer, it's pretty clear Wisconsin is basically Cold Texas. They have much, much bigger problems to worry about than mean words or the policy of an athletic department.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Sometimes it is, but... <The rules are probably dumb, but this is another one of those times when people latch onto an outlying example that isn't widespread to "prove" the whole world is going to hell because of political correctness.> Bingo. As an aside, I happen to live 2 blocks from a high school. I can hear the chants on home-game Saturdays (outdoor sports, anyway) from my apartment. Not only is there no regard for "PC," there's often little regard for "the seven words you can't say on television." Of course, this is Brooklyn.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Also, after watching Making a Murderer, it's pretty clear Wisconsin is basically Cold Texas.>> Now there is an incredibly stupid remark based on a random sample of one. Wisconsin is nothing at all like Texas. It has changed somewhat since Walker was elected governor, but Wisconsin has a long record of being a fairly liberal state. Obama won Wisconsin in both 2008 and 2012.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Now there is an incredibly stupid remark based on a random sample of one.<< It was a joke and a pretty good one.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>You know because feelings.<< God forbid that schools attempt to teach, you know, good sportsmanship and respecting opposing players. I've seen "fun" trash talk devolve into physical fights rather quickly in even youth sports level soccer games. It doesn't take much to set people off. And then someone gets hurt, often more than just their feelings. Sports should be exciting and fun. Most of these "cheers" in question are not cheering for the team, it's jeering the opposition. Which in this case is high school kids. We try to ban bullying in school, yet it's okay if a whole arena full of "fans" are doing the bullying? Yeah, I know. Tough luck. Sack up. Get over it. But perhaps, maybe, there is a better way for people to behave at a high school sporting event?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan And "political correctness" usually just means good manners, decent behavior, basic consideration. I can see why it upsets so many people.
Originally Posted By ecdc Also notice how the people telling everyone else to suck it up are usually the most hypersensitive? Today it's known as the Donald Trump Corollary. Do I see times when I think people are being sensitive or when something seems silly to me? Sure. But 9 times out of 10, when someone's spouting off about how "Common sense ain't so common anymore!" it's almost always some white conservative guy who's upset that his jokes aren't considered funny anymore or who's never been in a position to be mocked for who he is upset that the sands are shifting. It reminds me of when Jerry Seinfeld said he wasn't going to do shows on colleges anymore because everyone is so sensitive. I get it. Being a comedian is hard and there's probably nothing worse than some killjoy complaining about your act. But it's also not that long ago when jokes that Seinfeld wouldn't tell or would find offensive were perfectly acceptable. It's not hard to picture his father or grandfather being the butt of Jewish jokes and then told to suck it up when he doesn't like it.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Post 11. If you are taunting an opposing team with foul language or racial slurs that has no place. Chanting something like air ball is not offensive and team or player is ever offended by that. In fact it can be used as team and player to play better. And every player at some point has had that directed his or her way even. I'm sure even Michael Jordan of Lebron James heard that chant.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Chanting something like air ball is not offensive and team or player is ever offended by that.<< It isn't about being offended. It's about setting an environment of good sportsmanship for all involved. It really isn't enforced, which is too bad, because fan behavior is an issue at all levels. This high school is simply saying that they want their students, and parents, to be better than that. To be respectful of visiting players. I don't see why that's a bad thing.
Originally Posted By ecdc Even I have a tough time figuring out how you justify banning an "air ball" chant. Anyone who's been to a game knows that's gonna happen. And if it's a slippery slope argument--that it can descend into worse--well, slippery slope arguments suck.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan If I understand this correctly, this is focused more on the actual WIAA cheer squads, encouraging them to focus on routines that cheer FOR instead of jeering against. Again, basic good sportsmanship.
