Originally Posted By Donny A Netflix original documentary, Mitt is a rare and intimate account of one man's quest for the presidency. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLHxbemvpxY premieres January 24, 2014
Originally Posted By ecdc I'm anxious to see this. Greg Whiteley is a talented filmmaker. I read Double Down and Mitt comes across as a great family man who has no business running a political campaign. He's just not suited for it.
Originally Posted By utahjosh <Mitt comes across as a great family man who has no business running a political campaign. He's just not suited for it.> Sounds like just the guy I'd like to have in office.
Originally Posted By ecdc A great family man who's not a great politician sounds an awful lot like the guy we've got in office right now.... The thing is, I've read Double Down, I followed the campaign as closely as anyone, and I *still* have no idea what Mitt Romney truly believed. As the trailer hints, he was so traumatized by the label of flipflopper, that he stuck to his guns on absurd positions he staked out during the primaries. Would he have really "repealed Obamacare on day one?" Did he really buy into "self-deportation?" Those and a million other things sound like (and were) calculated efforts to have his cake and eat it too—appeal to conservatives, but not turn off moderates. Seriously, what the heck would Mitt Romney have done if he was elected? I have no clue, which isn't a good sign.
Originally Posted By Donny "I followed the campaign as closely as anyone, and I *still* have no idea what Mitt Romney truly believed." Then you didn't listen
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Then you didn't listen<< Okay, Donny. What was Mitt's plan for undocumented workers and immigration reform? What was his healthcare reform plan (given that a repeal wouldn't pass the Senate)? What was his foreign policy towards Iran? What was his jobs plan, beyond cutting taxes? Okay, that is one thing I feel like Mitt was clear on and would have done: Cut taxes for the wealthy. What else?
Originally Posted By Donny Romney is a supporter of universal health care. However, he wants to delegate its implementation to state level. He is against financial penalties for those who fail to comply with mandates. And similar to the Ryan plan, Romney proposes to divert money from Medicaid and other federal source of funding to the states.
Originally Posted By ecdc Donny knows Mitt Romney's plan so well he plagiarizes it from other sites: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://2012.republican-candidates.org/Romney/Health-Care.php">http://2012.republican-candida...Care.php</a> >>Essentially though, Romney is a supporter of universal health care. However, he wants to delegate its implementation to state level. He is against financial penalties for those who fail to comply with mandates. And similar to the Ryan plan, Romney proposes to divert money from Medicaid and other federal source of funding to the states.<< Hmmm....
Originally Posted By ecdc Mitt Romney's plan did not, of course, include universal healthcare. Because of the Republican base, he ran as far away as one can from words like "universal." Instead, he promoted the state plan with government incentives to get everyone on board. Hardly a guarantee of "universal" coverage. But that's just it...I don't know if Romney was really for that or not, since he claimed he'd repeal Obamacare but he also supported parts of it. He was on record as supporting a federal insurance mandate before, then he said he wasn't. I get it - politics. But Romney was unique in that he governed and ran as a liberal to moderate guy in Massachusetts, then swore up and down he'd be "severely" conservative as President. So which Mitt would we have gotten, Donny? Moderate Mitt or "severely" conservative Mitt? And how do you know?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan We got to hear exactly what Mitt Romney was all about when he was recorded and thought no one outside of his wealthy supporters was listening. It was clear as could be.
Originally Posted By oc_dean ^^^ I was just about to search for that infamous quote Ktoony. He was wrong for so many reasons. Throughout his campaign ... the reasons just stacked up like a set of dominos stacked up as high as it could go - then come crashing down. I'm so relieved that conservative, religious, money loving, the other 47%, gay hair cutting loony toon never get near the White House!
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I'll never forget the gay hair cut either. That's just not something you can really forget about a person. Holding down a person against their will, and cutting their hair because you just can't stand how "gay" it looks. Call him a family man all you want, I'll call him several other nastier things.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I have an apology to make K2oony .... I'm sorry I insulted Loony Toons, by equating them to Mitt Romney. Will you forgive me???
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Never, ever forget about Mitt's record in Massachusetts as Governor. A record that will not be shattered anytime soon, if ever. Mitt holds the record for the largest number of vetoes in the state's history. By a mile! Mitt exercised over 800 vetoes during his four years as Governor. He even vetoed bipartisan legislation that passed *unanimously*. Seriously, Mittens? Giving vetoes to legislation which every single Republican legislator endorsed and voted for? Vetoes which were overturned by even members of your own party? And you had the nerve to campaign on being able to "reach across the aisle" and "work with the other side." You couldn't even work with legislators in your own party. Good riddance!
Originally Posted By ecdc I'm excited for this documentary. I'm troubled at our country's need to so demonize the other guy that we can't even see them as human. I'm as guilty as anyone, and a bit ashamed of that fact. I don't have to agree with Mitt, but he at least deserves to be seen with the same modicum of charity the rest of us would hope to be granted when all of our faults and screw ups are under Klieg lights.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer The trailer does look interesting. Seems like a nice guy <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://youtu.be/d5i3F0YnkP0?t=6s">http://youtu.be/d5i3F0YnkP0?t=6s</a>
Originally Posted By utahjosh Choosing one moment from a guy's early life to define his complete adult moral standard is pretty silly.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Hell, I even see George W. Bush in a sympathetic, almost pathetic light these days. Then I think of all the crap he pulled, and the death tolls from wars that could have been avoided, and I realize that the guy was, and always will be a twisted, warped old man. (sorry for the Mr. Potter reference.) And letting yourself be manipulated is no defense. Romney is no different. Granting him the Presidency would have been like giving the one ring of power to the Dark Lord Sauron.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Choosing one moment from a guy's early life to define his complete adult moral standard is pretty silly.>> Then please address his most recent political experience as Governor of Massachusetts. Why did Romney keep insisting on the campaign trail that he would be a great President because he was skilled at "reaching across the aisle" in working with the MA Dems? Romney vetoed nearly every single bill the legislature put on his desk, including bills that had unanimous votes. Virtually all of the man's vetoes were overridden by the legislature, some of which were overridden unanimously. That means members of his own party were against his decisions. Romney flat out lied about being a "bipartisan Governor." Go ahead, Josh. Defend Romney for lying about this and how that makes him a "moral adult."
