Originally Posted By dshyates 1 dead, 5 injured in a downtown Orlando office shooting. The suspect is in custody. <a href="http://cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/6/downtown_orlando_shooting.html" target="_blank">http://cfnews13.com/News/Local...ing.html</a>
Originally Posted By DAR Didn't this happen a few months back where we had back to back mass shootings. I'm not trying to blow it off but I have this feeling of deja vu.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< At least the second shooting wasn't a case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome. >>> I was relieved about this too. These mass shootings are so much easier to take when there's no Jihad involved.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I never understand the logic of these guys. So he's got a chip on his shoulder. No one at his old job liked him. He feels they abandoned him. Let him go unfairly, whatever. Why would your next move be proving that you are as worthless as everyone thought you were? Let's say he did get a bad hand dealt to him. Why not go and prove that they were wrong by being the best person you can be? It doesn't make any sense to me.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 ^^ because people are sometimes messed up in the head. Of course you cannot understand it; neither can I. If we could, we could we would probably have some pretty big issues to work out ourselves.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster There's a lot of anger and desperation floating around these days. I'm surprised, frankly, that there hasn't been more violence.
Originally Posted By mele Is it wrong that I find the expression "Sudden Jihad Syndrome" kind of humorous? (No disrespect to the people who were killed this week. Such a sickening tragedy.) In Seattle, an officer was murdered the other day. He was just sitting in his patrol car when he was shot. Police shot the suspect during the officers funeral. The story got much, much weirder. <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010221236_suspect07m.html" target="_blank">http://seattletimes.nwsource.c...07m.html</a> It seems like there are more and more murders in our area than ever before.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<I was relieved about this too. These mass shootings are so much easier to take when there's no Jihad involved.>> You have to admit that the therapist turned Jihadist was much more effective than the disgruntled office worker when it came to snuffing out his targets.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 ^^Well, considering he had military training it is really not much of a surprise.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal ^^^The "military" training of a physician doesn't include much, if any, actual exposure to weapons or the like. He possibly did a GMO tour and may have been stationed with a division of the Army but that would have been his first few years out of medical school after internship. Unless he was stationed during that short time with an infantry unit, and he may have been, he wouldn't have any exposure to weapons at all during internship, residency or fellowship.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< ^The "military" training of a physician doesn't include much, if any, actual exposure to weapons or the like >>> True, but the 8 years he spent in the Army as an enlisted soldier before he became an officer and went to med school almost certainly did.
Originally Posted By LoyalOrderWaterBuffa ~~~~~The "military" training of a physician doesn't include much, if any, actual exposure to weapons or the like~~~~~ hey look even officers go through baSic training. They really do. they have carried and discharged M16 rifles, rappel off walls, wear the ~~fatigues~~, learn basic survival, orientation and charting topography. they do it too just like the enlisted. well not exactly like the enlisted because they are treated with more respect since they are officers but you get the point
Originally Posted By imadisneygal @SuperDry: Thanks for letting me know that he spent 8 years as an enlisted soldier, I hadn't read that and wasn't aware. He certainly had time in that kind of training in that case. @LoyalOrderetc.: Officers don't go through the same kind of basic training that enlisted do. My husband is a Navy Officer so I know this first hand. In the Navy they go through a different training called Officer's Indoctrination School and they never once did any of the things you listed - no carrying or discharging weapons, no rappelling off walls, no survival stuff. This was for the medical, scientfic and legal fields, in which this man would have been included. Of course, if those officers go on to become pilots, then they undergo additional training which then includes survival training including SERE school which most of them won't even discuss afterwards because it was such an intense experience. There is, of course, Officer Candidate School which is more vigorous than OIS, but it's still not the regular Basic Training for enlisted servicemembers. Not all officers automatically have access to weapons training or survival training.
Originally Posted By LoyalOrderWaterBuffa ~~~~~My husband is a Navy Officer ~~~~~ aha! you said Navy. I am talking about Army. Please, please somebody from Army back me up as I don't speculate but know this as fact. THIS IS FACT. In the Army whether one enters as Lt., captain or major, say straight out of a university or a private sector job as a Phd. in chemical engineering goes through ~~basic training ~~ officer style. They shoot M16's, learn basic navigation and yes, they rappel. They also wear fatigues and must wear a ~~~cover~~~(CAP OR HAT) when outdoors. the training is a few weeks and yes indeed all officers whether chemists or computer scientists go through that. I personally know one who entered the Army from the private sector as a Phd. chemist and was granted a captain in rank. He was trained at Ft Hood, the same Ft. Hood as our story, for his basics. He told me about all of the details in basic training. He told me how they learn to act as ~officers~, such as no fraternization with the enlisted, understand basic rules of warfare and Geneva convention stuff and definite carry rifles. He was under the UCMJ {UNIFORM CODE of MILITARY JUSTICE} OFFICERS WERE ISSUED RIFLES FOR THEIR BASIC TRAINING! even officers who were given commissions based on biological and inorganic sciences as well as the social sciences. NOW, AM I WRONG????
Originally Posted By imadisneygal I don't know if you're wrong, I'm just telling you my experience with the Navy. The Army also has Officers Candidate School, which may be more like basic training than the Navy's OIS is. Frankly I think it's a waste of money to put those officers through the same basic training as everyone else. They have no need for that kind of training for their jobs.
