Originally Posted By Donny Why is everyone looking to the federal government to create new gun laws when the states can start them themselves ?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper It is a national epidemic that requires a national response in my opinion. As is proven in Chicago, banning a weapon in one City doesn't seem to have much of an effect.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Why is everyone looking to the federal government to create new gun laws when the states can start them themselves ?" I'm going to say that you're on some sort of kick where you're determined to write one dumb thing after another, trying to see just how many dumb comments you can make in a row. States obviously cannot solve what wahoo correctly points out is a national problem. One land, one law, not one land and 50 ways of skirting the issue. Moreover, there are too many states with flakes running them, Texas and Arizona coming to mind, who would probably go the opposite way and make it mandatory for everyone to carry an assault rifle. No, no way states can solve this. Not a chance in hell.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Why do people keep falling for this stunt? Is it not obvious to everyone else that these posts are insincere?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Why do people keep falling for this stunt?>> Because the mods won't ban the guy like they finally banned Beau?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I was once a troll myself. And trust me it's not the path you want to take. It's childish and pathetic, especially trying to prove you're a tough guy behind a computer/phone/tablet screen. And as Chris Rock would say what you want a cookie?
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Is it not obvious to everyone else that these posts are insincere?<< Agreed. There is no way Donny is the obtuse imbecile he pretends to be.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda Donny is the kind of person who would argue that the yellow cab is actually white.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>Agreed. There is no way Donny is the obtuse imbecile he pretends to be.<<< Unfortunately I disagree. See I know people who think the way Donny does. They watch too much Fox News and get emails from too many far-right websites and they are convinced certain things are true; like that states can create and enforce gun laws and that would solve the gun murder epidemic in our country.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<There is no way Donny is the obtuse imbecile he pretends to be.>> So you believe he's not a teabagger? That most of his information doesn't come from Fox News? And his hypocritical behavior on the boards is merely a calculating troll with the main goal of simply pissing us off? Sorry, but I don't think he's that smart. There have been too many times when the tables got turned on him and he backtracked like a 5-year-old who got caught with cookies in his mouth after snitching on his brother for raiding the cookie jar. Yes, he engages in troll behavior, like with this thread. But I don't think he's so smart that he's quietly voting for Democrats while conning everyone into believing that he's a conservative Republican. Most of the teabaggers who aren't millionaires are idiots. Donny is such an individual.
Originally Posted By leobloom Either way, you'll never change his mind. So what's the point of debating him?
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>There have been too many times when the tables got turned on him and he backtracked like a 5-year-old who got caught with cookies in his mouth after snitching on his brother for raiding the cookie jar.<<< Or instead of backtracking he just leaves the thread and starts a new one --- like this one.
Originally Posted By Ivan Ivan has something to say so listen up heres the deal so cry if you like but if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have them its time to get real about the real world and stay out of fastacy land Ivan has spoken
Originally Posted By Ivan Excuse me but Ive been called far worse things then the likes of you before so please spare me the condensation. GOT IT!
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have them >>> And thus, Newtown and several other school shootings would have been prevented. Each of those shooters were law-abiding citizens until just prior to the shootings, and thus by the reality you agree with, would not have had guns had guns been completely banned. Note: I'm not promoting that guns should be completely banned - I'm just pointing out the flaw in the bumper-sticker slogan posted by another.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am not a gun owner so don't go there. However, the problem is not with the guns but with the people that have mental illness problems, unchecked and uncontrolled. It is our laws and freedoms that make that possible. That is where the creative thinking needs to be applied. Do I have a solution, no I do not, but I will readily admit that there are many people out there that are much smarter then I am. I think a workable compromise can be reached. Just focus on the real problem. Certain definable types of mental illness are controllable if we let ourselves control it. I want all people to have equal rights under the law and that includes victims of those types of crimes. That is why a sensible solution is necessary. When people are in a state of inability to control their emotions there has to be a way established for us to take charge and not wait for dozens of people to get killed before we do anything that we can see coming.
