Originally Posted By dshyates Ok, I just finished watching one of the scariest TV shows I have ever seen. It is a documentary that tracks the GOP side of the 2008 presidential campaign. It shows exactly why the GOP has been marginalized. It was produced by Alexandra Pelosi, Nancy's daughter. It is a very well put together show, but VERY scary. I recommend it to everyone regardless of party affiliation. It is available on HBO On Demand anytime, or here is a link to the regular HBO showings: <a href="http://www.hbo.com/apps/schedule/ScheduleServlet?ACTION_DETAIL=DETAIL&FOCUS_ID=680932" target="_blank">http://www.hbo.com/apps/schedu...D=680932</a>
Originally Posted By planodisney You honestly don't believe that a documentary could be put together about the Democrat side of things in the 2008 election that would scare you silly? Please!!! Incidents of voter fraud, suppression and advertisements filled with lies and distortions.
Originally Posted By DAR The parts of this documentary I saw showed some backwater hicks in Mississippi. I imagine a similar documentary from the right would show a bunch hacky sack hemp smelling doesn't believe in shaving(including the women) college students to represent the left.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin >hacky sack hemp smelling doesn't believe in shaving(including the women) college students to represent the left.> So um...like a picture of my family would be so offensive?
Originally Posted By DAR ^^^No but I live 90 minutes from the People's Republic of Madison so that's the image I have.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Incidents of voter fraud, suppression and advertisements filled with lies and distortions.> Any concrete confirmed examples that don't come from far-right websites?
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<I imagine a similar documentary from the right would show a bunch hacky sack hemp smelling doesn't believe in shaving(including the women) college students to represent the left.>> Whoa!! Jesus Dar, did you go to my university too?
Originally Posted By dshyates And yes guys, I expected it to be biased, seeing as how it is Pelosi's daughter who produced it. But the scary stuff isn't fake or trumped up. The Republican base is crazy. And it wasn't just a few from rural Mississippi. And the things that they were saying. It was really scary. I really suggest that everyone, ESPECIALLY republicans watch it. It is the stuff that I was telling you about that was going on around here in WV. And while I know it is rural, (and I would perfer that you uppity big city la-ti-das not refer to rural America as Backwater. We perfer "The REAL America"), that really is no excuse for the ignorance of those in your oparty. And I will take a group of Deadheads over the KKK anyday.
Originally Posted By utahjosh <But the scary stuff isn't fake or trumped up.> Not trumped up a bit? I doubt it, but I haven't seen it. <The Republican base is crazy.> The far left is nuts, too. It's one big happy crazy country! Nobody is saying the there aren't crazy idiots who support the Republican party. There are. There are KKK members, there are other racists, there are horrible people who fight for the conservative side. But don't call it THE BASE. But to say those kind of freaks don't exist on the Liberal/Democrat side is just willfully ignorant.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "But to say those kind of freaks don't exist on the Liberal/Democrat side is just willfully ignorant." So far, no in this thread has said that.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>But don't call it THE BASE.<< In some areas, it IS the base. Not necessarily everywhere, but in some areas - especially in the rural South - you betcha.
Originally Posted By dshyates They went to really backwater southern places like Columbus, Ohio, St. Louis, MO, And Beaverton Pennsylvania and Phoenix, AZ. And of course a NASCAR race in Bristol, Tenn., Mississippi, Myrtle Beach, SC. I really like the 50 year old white guy who literally beat the crap out of another 50 white guy because he held a NO McCain sign.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>They went to really backwater southern places like Columbus, Ohio, St. Louis, MO, And Beaverton Pennsylvania and Phoenix, AZ.<< Never been there, don't have HBO, but it doesn't surprise me. Stupid knows no region.
Originally Posted By planodisney Fringe elements of both bases are nots. THAT IS IT!!!! The Republican base as a whole is just as normal and people loving as the Democrats KNOW they are! It is absolutely amazing to me just how spiritually conceited and condescending the left has become. You guys realy think your sh.. don't stink don't you. I am around conservative people every day of my life and they are great, community helpting, less fortunate helping neighbor comforting, tax paying, America loving, disaster aiding folks. If you can't deal with that because it doesn't make you feel superior tha en that is your problem Some people need to just get a life. i am so sick of the crap on here!!!!
Originally Posted By dshyates Plano, watch the documentary. Or better yet come to my neck of the woods. I can show you what the GOP base around here is like. And I am so FRICKIN' sick of listening to their racist crap it makes me want to puke. You may think that it is a non issue but I LIVE with it day in and day out. Come to Appalachia, I dare you.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "It is absolutely amazing to me just how spiritually conceited and condescending the left has become. You guys realy think your sh.. don't stink don't you." Even though I'm a registered Republican, right back at ya. True Republicans need to take a step back and re-assess. They lost this last election for a reason. Or two, or three. This refusal to do a bit of self-examination and instead go on the attack will ensure defeat as far as the eye can see.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 If one of Karl Rove's kids did a documentary on the Democratic party - exactly how seriously would that be taken here ? It is easy enough to marginalize either party if that is the intent from the get go....but have your fun...
Originally Posted By ecdc Aside from being insanely busy, part of the reason I don't have much to say in WE's anymore is because just about every thread turns into some politically correct exercise where, as soon as someone criticizes the Republicans, the response is "there's crazies on both sides!" "Our opinions are equally valid and equally tenable!" There's simply no point in offering valid criticism anymore because the new mantra is, "Oh yeah! You do it to!" The refusal to see that maybe, just maybe, there is a difference between these parties viability got tiresome. But now, I think I'll embrace it with open arms. This Republican refusal to take a step back, as SPP noted, will just ensure their failure for the foreseeable future. It's a shame that it has to be like this, because our country is better off with two healthy political parties. But healthy is the key word, and the Republican party couldn't be less healthy. Let's review: -McCain's campaign flounders until the selection of an intellectually incurious evangelical who thinks dinosaurs and humans co-existed. She can't name newspapers she's read, she doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is, etc. On and on it goes. And Republicans love her and she's the top pick for 2012 right now. But we'll hear about how that's just the crazies. Sure. Because only the margins propel someone to the top of the polls. Gotcha. -Republican Congressman Phil Gingrey has to publicly apologize to Rush Limbaugh after telling him to shut up. We may look back on those couple of days as a key nail in the Republican coffin for the foreseeable future. The Republican party had a choice. Become relevant again with a concern over fiscal conservatism and conservative foreign policy, or continue to let crazies like Rush "I Hope Obama Fails" Limbaugh dictate the party's beliefs. They decided to stick with their social issues, even as Americans become less concerned with them, and their obstructionism. Good luck with that. -Mike Barnacle nailed it on Hardball the other night. Ever since people have been fighting wars when they threw rocks at each other, taxes went up and sacrifices were made to pay for it. For the first time in history, a President decided to fight a two-front war and lower taxes. He ended his term with the largest deficit in history. He had Republican support every step of the way. But NOW Republicans are crying and whining about mortgaging our kids' future. Americans (thankfully) aren't buying it. (Oh, and I love the irony. After LPers are throwing around terms like "Obama the Messiah" and when pressed for a source, reference a handful of nutjobs on the left, now when someone posts something about right-wing crazies, it's just all so pointless because both sides do it. What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander, apparently.) But nope, both parties are the same, I tells ya. Sure, Obama's approval rating is still high. Sure, historians just rated FDR the third-best President, current Republicans efforts at revisionist history to make the New Deal a failure aside. Sure a majority of Americans want the stimulus package. Sure, Obama's loved overseas while Bush was loathed. But hey, it's all the same. SNL nailed the current state of the Republican party: <a href="http://www.hulu.com/watch/57942/saturday-night-live-republican-meeting-open#s-p1-st-i2" target="_blank">http://www.hulu.com/watch/5794...p1-st-i2</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "I really like the 50 year old white guy who literally beat the crap out of another 50 white guy because he held a NO McCain sign." For what it's worth, for the most part, I didn't tell many people where I live (in Los Angeles, a quite civilized city) that I supported McCain for the exact same reason. Sure, the odds of someone physically attacking me were very low, but I definately recieved a lot of hostility from people (many of them my good friends and even roommates) for simply supporting the 'wrong' candidate. Not to do the broken record thing, but it definatley works both ways. "I can show you what the GOP base around here is like. And I am so FRICKIN' sick of listening to their racist crap it makes me want to puke." Speaking of broken records, have you considered moving? You clearly don't like living in West Virginia, as it has surfaced as a major complaint of yours in many many topics. If you are really as miserable as you make it sound, why don't you go somewhere else? I know it's fun to sit around and complain (it's one of my favorite hobbies too), but you don't seem to really enjoy complaining about WV. If I were you, I would definately check into moving elsewhere.
