Originally Posted By jonvn San Franciso has managed to do yet another idiotic thing. They want to build a subway with three stops into chinatown. It will cost nearly two billion dollars, and won't even stop at market street, which it will have to tunnel nearly 100 feet under the ground to get under BART. Three stops. One at the beginning, then one at union square, then one in Chinatown on stockton. Meanwhile, people use the gutter as a toilet and the streets are a mess of potholes and other filth.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Yes. A huge earthquake leaves San Francisco alone, as the rest of the country falls into the Atlantic. It's bound to happen.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The Atlantic is sneakier than the Pacific. But it has better PR people working for it, so it has perpetuated the whole "California falling into the Pacific" lie, when really it can't wait to absord much of the country in it's watery grip. I don't know why the media doesn't cover this scandal.
Originally Posted By avromark Give it a few trillion years and well all live on one huge continent, I wonder what they'll call it. Does anyone have any ideas? Well subways are good uh huh, you can eat at them too :
Originally Posted By gadzuux The strangest part of this whole plan is that, while this new subway line crosses under market street (the main drag in SF) it doesn't link with any of the dozen or so OTHER transit lines (both muni and bart) that also run on and/or under market street. It doesn't even have a market street station. If you wish to transfer to another line - or simply want to GO to market street, you have to get off at union square three blocks away. I'd rather they put those billions towards high-speed rail between northern and southern california. Now that I might ride - especially if they include a DLR stop. A subway to chinatown? Never.
Originally Posted By mele I hear that staffers have told the Atlantic to stay away from a certain lobbyist.
Originally Posted By jonvn "A subway to chinatown? Never. " Isn't it ridiculous? meanwhile, the most heavily traveled route in the city along Geary again gets nothing.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Meanwhile, they could spend the same ammount of money, and build a lovely theme park along the lines of Tokyo DisneySea on reclaimed land. I'd take the theme park, filled with a dozen or so rides, over the single ride. It doesn't even sound like there will be anything to look at. : )
Originally Posted By DlandDug Hey there! Take this proposed three stop ride, add several tempting shops and some high end restaurants, and you'd have Disney's California Adventure North! Granted, it would cost twice as much as the one down south, but that can all be explained away with Disney's creative accounting. (Disney's Creative Accounting? Is that what DCA has stood for all these years?)
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn <Give it a few trillion years and well all live on one huge continent, I wonder what they'll call it. Does anyone have any ideas?> Aegnap (Pangea spelled backwards)
Originally Posted By Mr X **Give it a few trillion years and well all live on one huge continent, I wonder what they'll call it. Does anyone have any ideas?** the United States of America!
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn I wonder what the final "bump" will be the continents. Will there be a big splash?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy No splash because global warming will have evaporated all the water on earth by that time ;-)
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn there's no other place for the water to go. I'd fear Polar Shift by then anyway. That would be more of a threat rather than global warming.
Originally Posted By Mrs ElderP Re: High Speed Rail up and down California. This is my question, and it's an honest one, I'm not trying to make fun of this idea (I like the idea, though doubt that I could afford a ticket on it.) As I see it there are 3 basic routes: 1. Along the coast, esentially the old El Camino Real. There was a reason the Spanish put their route there: where the most people live (or where they would choose to live) and the most desirable stops for both business and pleasure. On the other hand, at this point it also has the most expensive land and you'll have the most problems with eminate domain. 2. Along where I-5 goes, through the great central valley. Pros: cheaper, less occupied land, especially if you are running a "limited" type line w/*very* few stops. Cons, you have two mountain passes to get through. 3. (Not really an option) Up the East Side of CA, in the high desert. Now you have even less people, but you're even farther from any one you would want to ride it. I'm not as familiar with the high desert's geograph, but I think you'd still have mountian pass issues. Also: how far north do you go? Just to Sacramento or San Fransisco or further? I would assume that you would start in San Diego.
Originally Posted By jonvn There really isn't much north in CA past Sacramento. Not until Portland. If they run a HSR through the state, I would think they would go the coastal route as there is already a train that runs along there, and it runs through all the major population centers except Sac, Fresno and Bakersfield. I don't think they'd go to san diego. Actually, I don't think it will ever get built at all. I think the most likely first thing will be SF to LA.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan If they built one, I think it would go from San Jose to LA. The run from San Jose to San Francisco would probably cost as much as the entire rest of the route. But I agree, I don't think it will ever be built.
