Originally Posted By EighthDwarf I just saw this article in the LA Times: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gaymarriage23-2008oct23,0,4937128.story" target="_blank">http://www.latimes.com/news/lo...28.story</a> "While California voters remain closely divided on the question of gay marriage, a majority oppose a measure to ban it, according to a poll released Wednesday by the Public Policy Institute of California. But the poll also found that support for Proposition 8, which would amend the state Constitution to disallow same-sex marriage, has gained somewhat since a similar survey was taken in late August. The latest results show 44% in favor and 52% opposed, with a margin of sampling error of 3 percentage points." So the good news is that Prop 8 is winning but the bad news is that it is gaining support (hmmm, I wonder how). Also, the fund raising is even now. It's gonna be close folks - if you are against Prop 8, make sure you vote!
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>So the good news is that Prop 8 is winning but the bad news is that it is gaining support << A little lost here... Shouldn't that say: "So the good news is that Prop 8 is loosing" .. since it's 52% against to the 44% in favor?
Originally Posted By mele Sadly, I think it will pass...this time. It will eventually pass; I think there's no denying that. I really hope I'm wrong about it passing. I wish that pro prop 8 people would see that their lives are no different in the past few months that this has been legal but it's pretty clear that their fear is the only thing they can see.
Originally Posted By Mr X Is there any way to canvass from Asia to the Californian folks? Thanks to Elder and Josh, I so very much want to get active in some way here.
Originally Posted By gadzuux It must eventually go to the supreme court. Defeating Prop 8 will help that. When people get married in CA and then relocate to other states, their marriages are not recognized. This is an untenable situation where citizens have civil rights restored or revoked as they travel through different states. But you're right - there's an inevitability to all of this. States cannot pass laws that violate the US constitution. And opponents of same sex marriage are never going to get the DOM passed. And the conservatives will scream bloody murder about "activist judges" when it happens. They don't understand - it's not the judges, it's the constitution. Get over it.
Originally Posted By mele << When people get married in CA and then relocate to other states, their marriages are not recognized. This is an untenable situation where citizens have civil rights restored or revoked as they travel through different states. >> That is something that civil unions do not protect, either, and yet we're supposed to be satisfied with "separate but equal".
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster "Yup, my mistake. Thanks for the clarification, Damn tequila." ETP?
Originally Posted By u k fan Like Mr X in Asia I wish there was more I could do as I sit here in Europe. It will be a sad day if the right for everyone to marry is revoked. We're supposed to be moving forwards on this planet - not backwards!!!
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf "ETP?" I wish bro - won't be having any of that until the market becomes more cooperative I'm afraid. It was Herradura reposado (mixed of course).
