Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12822.html" target="_blank">http://www.politico.com/news/s...822.html</a> >>Hillary Rodham Clinton is over it — at least when people are watching. Within days of losing the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, her aides said she was all business, returning to her Senate duties, telling people she would do whatever Obama asked her to do in the general election. Bill Clinton is not over it. He’s trying, his associates say. He’s slowly getting to a better place. But his resentments from the bitter campaign battles of last winter and spring are many and diverse, and people who have spent time with him recently said they fester just below the surface. For the next two days, a convention that belongs to Obama will be dominated by the same two people who dominated the Democratic Party for the last generation and who have come to Denver in much different roles than they wanted. She speaks Tuesday. It’s his turn Wednesday. For the Clintons, the politics of the week are simple: Accept the cheers of the many Democrats who still support them, be lavish in their praise for Obama, make sure that if he loses no one can say it was because they were covertly rooting for that result. But the psychology of the week is complicated. It requires them to muzzle what friends say are their deep and continuing doubts about Obama’s electability, qualifications and political character.<< >>In public remarks over the years, Clinton has said many times that his biggest mistakes in life came when he was tired or angry. During his wife’s campaign, he was often both — sometimes with good reason, as he witnessed errors by his wife’s advisers or endured what even many media commentators have called a pro-Obama bias in news coverage. Clinton several times became ill-tempered in public, called Obama’s anti-Iraq message a “fairy tale” and denounced a widely respected journalist as a “scumbag.” His tirades during daily campaign conference calls became so frequent that some of his wife’s strategists stopped getting on the phone. What’s more — contrary to his public reputation as a politician who is masterful at playing the angles — Bill Clinton has proved often over the years that he is among the most transparent of politicians. As president, people who wanted to know what he really thought simply needed to listen to his evening fundraisers, when he would regularly skate off-message with his unfiltered ruminations. That’s why aides are sharply limiting access to him now, until he has more time to put his feelings about Obama into perspective. Both Clintons declined repeated interview requests from Politico. Bill Clinton believes the Democratic nominee, far from practicing a unifying, transformational brand of politics, has the political instincts of “a Chicago thug,” one longtime associate said. Clinton has told people that Obama allowed surrogates to try to suppress Hispanic turnout in the Nevada caucuses, and played “the race card” in reverse against the Clintons in South Carolina and other states. In a testy interview with ABC News during an Africa tour for his foundation a few weeks ago — one that convinced Clinton he should not give interviews for a while — he vowed that he would unload with his real feelings about the campaign after the general election: “I have very strong feelings about it.” << MUCH more at the link...
Originally Posted By DAR Bill might be angry because he probably had Hillary on his case every night.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <Bill might be angry because he probably had Hillary on his case every night.> Nice...
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder The Clintons can get over it quite easily. The question is whether Darkbeer and the Republicans can do so.
Originally Posted By woody Bill Clinton is not over it. He’s trying, his associates say. Bill Clinton is not over it. He’s trying, his associates say. Bill Clinton is not over it. He’s trying, his associates say.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Bill Clinton is a Political Animal with a capital P and a capital A. He lives, eats, drinks, sleeps, and breathes the stuff. It was HUGE to him that Hillary be the nominee. I always got the vibe that it was a bigger deal to him even than it was to her. I think her loss will nag at him in some way for the rest of his life. And, like most self-involved people (he was a good president, but he IS very self-involved), he blames others when things go wrong and feels a sense of grievance - "We should have HAD this!" I think this will nag at him for a long, long time. That said, there's nothing to say he can't "compartimentalize" that feeling inside him for now, and come out and support Obama enthusiastically.
Originally Posted By woody >>Repeat a wish three times and it's sure to come true!<< It's already true.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA So, Bill Clinton is irritated that his wife didn't win the nomination. And he's pissed that she isn't Barack Obama's running mate. So what? Do you get over stuff quickly? If the LP boards are any indication, I'd say no.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy You really can't invest yourself in a process like running for President and just "get over it." If that's the way you operate, I would suggest you weren't very sincere about the job in the first place. I've gone after things far less significant than the presidency, and in the few occasions where I didn't get what I wanted, it took a while to get back to normal.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The drama over how Bill and Hillary and their supporters feel is very much this week's narrative. We all know there will be a weepy reunion and everyone will play nice. Next week, it be replaced with the narrative that McCain still hasn't secured the religious right or some other minor controversy inflated out of all proportion. The truth is, the conventions are really infomercials these days, and bored reporters are trying to whip up anything they can in the way of controversy and drama. They have 24 hours of air time to fill, so a lot of this stuff is the equivalent of John Madden focusing on tailgate parties.
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Originally Posted By ecdc Yeah, it's probably time to give Bill Clinton a bit of a break. It's curious, too, that those who have always insisted the Clinton's marriage is one of convenience, are now happily trumpeting how devastated Bill was over his wife's loss. I know if my wife worked that hard for something and came up just short, I might not take it too well either.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/bill-clinton-in-denver-again-undercuts-obama-2008-08-26.html" target="_blank">http://thehill.com/campaign-20...-26.html</a> >>Bill Clinton appeared to undermine Sen. Barack Obama again Tuesday. The former president, speaking in Denver, posed a hypothetical question in which he seemed to suggest that that the Democratic Party was making a mistake in choosing Obama as its presidential nominee. He said: "Suppose you're a voter, and you've got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don't think that candidate can deliver on anything at all. Candidate Y you agree with on about half the issues, but he can deliver. Which candidate are you going to vote for?"<< >>Democrats concerned about what the former president might say when he addresses the Democratic convention Wednesday night would likely have cringed at his remarks Tuesday to a group of foreign dignitaries. The former president talked about the importance of a politician being able to deliver on his promises following an electoral victory and how voters factor in that ability to deliver when picking their candidate. During the contentious and at times nasty nomination battle between Clinton and Obama, the Clinton campaign repeatedly pushed the question of whether Obama, a freshman senator, had the experience or the ability to deliver on his promises if elected. Clinton, they argued, was more suited to do so.<< >>Clinton has been a media magnet throughout the year as his remarks have caused heartache and headaches to former and current supporters. From when he called Obama's candidacy "a fairytale" to when he compared the Illinois senator's win in South Carolina to that of Rev. Jesse Jackson's, many Clinton loyalists, detractors and analysts feel that Clinton did irreparable damage to both his wife's candidacy and his legacy as president. Now in a convention that continues to be racked with stories and questions about how unified the Democratic Party truly is, Clinton's appearance Wednesday — and his tendency to go off the teleprompter — has some Democrats very nervous.<<
Originally Posted By DAR I'm telling everyone the phrase Bill Clinton has been using these last few weeks has been "Yes dear."
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Now in a convention that continues to be racked with stories and questions about how unified the Democratic Party truly is<< Racked. RACKED, I say. Oh how very RACKED those poor Dems are!
